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Old 09-24-2019, 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by pitchattitude View Post
Junior DFW captain on 175 is about a July 17 hire. Junior DFW captain on 145 is about a Jul 18 hire. Those are guesstimates based on seniority number currently on the bottom of the reserve list.
Both 175 and 145 DFW CA are July 2018 DOH. That's based on the July vacancy bid. I guess a few of the junior DCL will get displaced to ORD on this upcoming bid.
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Old 09-24-2019, 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by dragongoliath View Post
Both 175 and 145 DFW CA are July 2018 DOH. That's based on the July vacancy bid. I guess a few of the junior DCL will get displaced to ORD on this upcoming bid.
May be based on the vacancy bid, but seniority and how you bid affects WHEN you actually are flying the line. There are 600 numbers between the last captain on the 175 reserve list (1277) and the 145 reserve list (1862) in DFW today.

And as you pointed out, you can still get knocked out before you get there if too junior. Or even after you get there.
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Old 09-24-2019, 02:49 PM
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I wasn’t a DEC so I can’t speak from experience, but QOL doesn’t seem like something associated with being one. You are eternally junior.
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Old 09-24-2019, 03:09 PM
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I wasn’t a DEC so I can’t speak from experience, but QOL doesn’t seem like something associated with being one. You are eternally junior.
Not eternally. Average upgrade times are 2-3 years. So you are junior for 2-3 years. After that your seniority starts to increase.

It 100% sucks. Most DECs from my new hire class have apps out.
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Old 09-24-2019, 04:00 PM
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Not eternally. Average upgrade times are 2-3 years. So you are junior for 2-3 years. After that your seniority starts to increase.

It 100% sucks. Most DECs from my new hire class have apps out.
True. I bet it feels like an eternity though...
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Old 09-24-2019, 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by dera View Post
Not eternally. Average upgrade times are 2-3 years. So you are junior for 2-3 years. After that your seniority starts to increase.

It 100% sucks. Most DECs from my new hire class have apps out.
2 to 3 years on reserve at this company is an eternity.
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Old 09-24-2019, 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Varsity View Post
2 to 3 years on reserve at this company is an eternity.
If you live in base, it's not bad. If you commute, FYL.
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Old 09-25-2019, 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by taylormadeduff View Post
Thinking of coming over to Envoy as basically a DEC (1200 hours 121). Have yet to get a straight answer on which base I can hold. IF I get assigned DFW out of class as an FO, what are the chances of holding DFW long term? QOL is more important than money to me and I can go to NYC with the company now and keep my 52% seniority number. Been told that I can be displaced off airframe and out of base both and been told just the opposite. Just asking you guys before I decide yes or no. Thanks for the help!
Your best bet may be going to SkyWest and getting their DFW base, plus they will pay you starting at however many years you’ve put in at your other carrier. You’ll be an FO but making captain pay and not being junior forever.
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Your best bet may be going to SkyWest and getting their DFW base, plus they will pay you starting at however many years you’ve put in at your other carrier. You’ll be an FO but making captain pay and not being junior forever.
The SkyWest thread said AA announced 7 more 700s for DFW. I thought the base was junior for SKW, but if that's true, you might be able to hold a decent schedule relatively quickly in DFW, in addition to getting it out of training. Obviously the better pay is a huge incentive too.
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Old 09-25-2019, 08:31 AM
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Anyone know the DOH of the junior OCL line holder?
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