pitchattitude

Hopefully you were aware of this when you came to Envoy. You could have made your life easier by selecting the 145 initially.

CLE to IAH

I was aware. It’s what I wanted.

Curious why you think bidding the 145 would have made it easier? I live in Dallas. I selected the airplane that is in Dallas. Even if it is only a temporary benefit, it is still a benefit for now.

Or should I say. I live close enough to Dallas that I can sit reserve at home. (Not that I’ll be sitting)

Bottom line, I know I will know in a couple of weeks but I was just curious if everyone thinks I’m gonna go ahead and upgrade with this. It sounds like I am. Thanks!

pitchattitude

You will not upgrade in the 175. You won’t have seniority to hold it, so you will be going through long term on the 145. You will be in Dallas for training, but you won’t even be able to hold the 145 in DFW. From looks, it will be ORD, and at least not NY, but NY has some travel and hotel benefits for three months.

To get an idea, look at the seniority list from the union website and the most recent flow plan. That will give you an idea of what seniority is getting what. Look at the N6D to get an idea of what seniority is still on reserve.

I guess in some respects you could say it is easier as you will be in DFW as FO while waiting for training as Captain, but will have to learn another aircraft and long term training within a short time.

EnyFlyr

Sims for 175 are in St lou .. for the 145 are all DFW..

CLE to IAH

Thanks for the info. 145 ORD was my best guess but I’m too new to know for sure. They told me in my interview, you’re likely to have a nice long stint on the 145 in NYC. they certainly didn’t try to hide it. I’m already typed on the 145 so that’s at least helpful. I’m not a complainer. If I get 145 ORD, that is ok by me. At least we have movement. It may be a year. It may be two or more but eventually I’ll get Dallas back. I’m happy to earn my spot.

I just want to make sure I work my bid correctly enough that I’m not hurting myself on accident with improper bidding. DECS is certainly an adjustment.

Either way, my line of questioning in this thread was only “hey, can I plan on upgrading?” Which is why I left XJT.

I would guess that I am and that is good news for now.

Thanks again!

pitchattitude

There are some 175 sims done in DFW, most in STL. Not sure if they differentiate based on type of training or just luck of the draw.

pitchattitude

You want to make sure you only have a 3D and leave your 3P blank. If you preference you lose out on the extra five hours pay for 24 months if you choose to accept the training lock. That won’t affect a preference back to DFW at the earliest point you can hold it. And while you might be able to get a 175 in DFW slightly before that, it won’t be as a line holder. Take the extra money and then bid back to the 175 when your lock expires and can hold a line on the 175 in DFW.

The junior DFW 175 line holder is at about three years seniority. That might slide up or down as Envoy gets more 175s. As has been pointed out, there are quite a few lifers there. But if 145 lines decrease, that will influence what others between you and a line choose to do. Obviously there are a lot of changes that can happen in that amount of time.

HalyardJammer

6 out of 7 slots are in DFW in my upgrade class.

HalyardJammer

The distribution is luck, but everyone in my upgrade class got to choose their slot based on what was available.

CLE to IAH

How do I know the difference in prof to displace vs displace in decs? I only see 3D and 3P?