Envoy AA4125 Slides off ORD Runway Video
11-11-2019, 05:13 PM
#31
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Originally Posted by FlyPurdue
Discussing this publicly is not my intention. I tried to be vague so only Envoy pilots would know what I was alluding to. That page saved me a few times when I first upgraded, as I did not even know it existed until my first winter as Captain.
I understand your concern, and my own apparent contradiction. I will delete it if it gives too much info.
I understand your concern, and my own apparent contradiction. I will delete it if it gives too much info.
11-11-2019, 05:21 PM
#32
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Originally Posted by APC225
Don’t passengers know they’re not supposed to video. In portrait mode.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2picMQC-9E
11-11-2019, 05:23 PM
#33
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Originally Posted by dera
I hope ORD will re-evaluate if that runway really was 5/5/5 as they said in the ATIS.
"RWY 10L, COND CODE, 5 5 5 AT, 1215Z". This was still posted on the 1451Z ATIS.
"RWY 10L, COND CODE, 5 5 5 AT, 1215Z". This was still posted on the 1451Z ATIS.
11-11-2019, 05:26 PM
#34
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Originally Posted by pangolin
Video looks like they slid off the taxi way not the rwy.
And winds were reported at 360 at 17G24.
11-11-2019, 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by dera
Tower needs to reconsider their reports. "RCC is 5/5/5, braking medium to poor at N3 and 4" That wasn't accurate at all, obviously.
And winds were reported at 360 at 17G24.
And winds were reported at 360 at 17G24.
555 can change to NIL in a matter of seconds. It’s always up to the PIC.
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11-11-2019, 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Tring
555 can change to NIL in a matter of seconds. It’s always up to the PIC.
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They were calling 18kt winds with no gusts only a few minutes after the event.
11-11-2019, 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by dera
I'm just saying they weren't intentionally breaking any regs or FM1 limitations. They were just given information that wasn't correct.
They were calling 18kt winds with no gusts only a few minutes after the event.
They were calling 18kt winds with no gusts only a few minutes after the event.
I hear you. It’s very frustrating not knowing how slippery it is under your toes.
I was once told the FICON report was 555, and just below it was a PIREP saying braking action poor to nil with 500 foot from running off the end of the runway.
It’s all up to us i suppose.
It’s frustrating
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11-11-2019, 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Tring
I hear you. It’s very frustrating not knowing how slippery it is under your toes.
I was once told the FICON report was 555, and just below it was a PIREP saying braking action poor to nil with 500 foot from running off the end of the runway.
It’s all up to us i suppose.
It’s frustrating
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I was once told the FICON report was 555, and just below it was a PIREP saying braking action poor to nil with 500 foot from running off the end of the runway.
It’s all up to us i suppose.
It’s frustrating
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5/5/5 my stinking a**.
They ran off the runway before the point where tower called "medium to poor". So I think they had a reason to believe the action before that was "5".
11-11-2019, 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by dera
It's a shame one of the busiest airports in the world can't provide a FICON that's less than an hour old, especially when PIREPs are calling for much worse braking action.
5/5/5 my stinking a**.
They ran off the runway before the point where tower called "medium to poor". So I think they had a reason to believe the action before that was "5".
5/5/5 my stinking a**.
They ran off the runway before the point where tower called "medium to poor". So I think they had a reason to believe the action before that was "5".
Hear Hear!
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