View Poll Results: Which rumor is most likely to become reality?

All 20 Compass ERJ-175s are transferred to Envoy

35.17%

West Coast base opens (LAX or PHX)

8.28%

Envoy increases AA flow to 30+ a month to increase recruiting

5.52%

Envoy grossly underestimates major airline hiring demands and is severely understaffed

37.24%

APA breaks on scope during contract negotiations and we unfortunately get AA’s E190s

3.45%

The majors hire every single Envoy pilot and AA’s regional feed is decimated

10.34%

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12-30-2019 | 03:33 PM

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dvtpilot

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I’d guess they wouldn’t hesitate to park 145s as needed to bring them on.

12-31-2019 | 05:11 AM

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I’d guess they wouldn’t hesitate to park 145s as needed to bring them on.

Good thought. I’m surprised Envoy isn’t more aggressive in obtaining new hires right now, I think there is an illusion of safety. Parking 145s in favor of 175s seems probable, but even without an increased need for staffing added planes to the fleet, I suspect attrition is going to be high in 2020.

12-31-2019 | 05:38 AM

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These are times the industry hasn't faced before and as history tells, Envoy is not proactive when it comes to change or anything for that matter.

12-31-2019 | 11:14 AM

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These are times the industry hasn't faced before and as history tells, Envoy is not proactive when it comes to change or anything for that matter.

Envoy will be more than prepared with their long list of highly qualified pipeline candidates.

12-31-2019 | 11:23 AM

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Envoy will be more than prepared with their long list of highly qualified pipeline candidates.

Pipeline as in flight instructors pipeline?

12-31-2019 | 12:14 PM

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Pipeline as in flight instructors pipeline?

Yep. The number of guys either in a qualified academy or trying to get in that are all vying for that Envoy slot are incredible.

12-31-2019 | 02:41 PM

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Dacuj, is that you.

12-31-2019 | 04:49 PM

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Dacuj, is that you.

Yup
Filler

12-31-2019 | 07:29 PM

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That’s probably true, but even if we did get Compass’ 175s, how are we going to staff them? If attrition goes up like some are predicting, they might have some major issues.

The last new 175s will be delivered by June-ish. How has Envoy been staffing all the new ones? No more CRJs and 5 140s just went to the desert. Envoy will eventually become all 175s. Do the math, two a month. It will just take a long time. Everyone currently on property that has plans to be elsewhere will be by the time it happens.

01-01-2020 | 04:09 PM

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What is actually happening is more mainline flying going to 175. Flow is going to go down slightly. Regionals will now going to hit 70 to 75% of all AAG flying.