View Poll Results: Which rumor is most likely to become reality?

All 20 Compass ERJ-175s are transferred to Envoy

35.17%

West Coast base opens (LAX or PHX)

8.28%

Envoy increases AA flow to 30+ a month to increase recruiting

5.52%

Envoy grossly underestimates major airline hiring demands and is severely understaffed

37.24%

APA breaks on scope during contract negotiations and we unfortunately get AA’s E190s

3.45%

The majors hire every single Envoy pilot and AA’s regional feed is decimated

10.34%

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01-01-2020 | 05:25 PM

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pitchattitude

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What is actually happening is more mainline flying going to 175. Flow is going to go down slightly. Regionals will now going to hit 70 to 75% of all AAG flying.

As much as the airlines would love to be able to pay that percentage of pilots what they do, you know that scope prevents that. There would have to be a whole lot more change in the model to get that much scope relief.

01-01-2020 | 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by pitchattitude

He's talking about daily departures, and he's accurate. Mainline is 3k~ a day, Eagle system is 4k~.

01-02-2020 | 05:49 AM

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He's talking about daily departures, and he's accurate. Mainline is 3k~ a day, Eagle system is 4k~.

Measuring by daily departures isn’t the best way to compare work loads. You can do three TYR turns for one transcontinental flight.

01-02-2020 | 06:03 AM

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Measuring by daily departures isn’t the best way to compare work loads. You can do three TYR turns for one transcontinental flight.

So are you saying that one departure and one arrival, with a 3 hour cruise segment in the middle is MORE work load than three quick turns/flight segments in the same time frame?

01-02-2020 | 06:12 AM

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So are you saying that one departure and one arrival, with a 3 hour cruise segment in the middle is MORE work load than three quick turns/flight segments in the same time frame?

Depends, it’s not black and white. Of course eagle will have more departures due to flying shorter segments on average and mainline relying on eagle to feed the hubs and longer haul stuff.

01-02-2020 | 07:14 AM

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Depends, it’s not black and white. Of course eagle will have more departures due to flying shorter segments on average and mainline relying on eagle to feed the hubs and longer haul stuff.

Um. Yeah I know how that works. That’s not the point I was making.

01-02-2020 | 02:02 PM

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What is actually happening is more mainline flying going to 175. Flow is going to go down slightly. Regionals will now going to hit 70 to 75% of all AAG flying.

More Envoy flying is good. Even quicker upgrades and that many more in the flow pipeline. I say that having flowed.

01-02-2020 | 02:10 PM

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Envoy will be more than prepared with their long list of highly qualified pipeline candidates.

Pipeline patrol operators quaking with fear of losing their pipeline patrol pilots.

Prediction: dera hired UAL. On the other hand, deraa remains for 5 more years.

01-02-2020 | 02:44 PM

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More Envoy flying is good. Even quicker upgrades and that many more in the flow pipeline. I say that having flowed.

You astound me. More regional flying is absolutely the worst thing to happen. Adding more regional flying is nearly as bad as scope relief. We dont want to fly at the regional level, we want to move on. More flying at mainline means more pilots needed at mainline.

Granted, there is a balance as we need people moving at the regional level to keep the flow going and we certainly dont want to hamstring Envoy, but really more isnt better. I actually feel we struck a good balance with the PP flow rate. Even a steady 25 a month would be great so long as it was guaranteed.

01-02-2020 | 03:22 PM

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More Envoy flying is good. Even quicker upgrades and that many more in the flow pipeline. I say that having flowed.

More Envoy flying at the expense of mainline is good??? And you say that as someone that has supposedly flowed??? You expose yourself even more as the troll you are.