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Old 03-24-2020, 09:47 AM
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Approving an LOA without posting it is just as bad as refusing one without posting it.
what are the chances of the company doing something shady and withholding OT regardless?
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Old 03-24-2020, 09:50 AM
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what are the chances of the company doing something shady and withholding OT regardless?
already done to a limited extent with red/redder.
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Old 03-24-2020, 09:53 AM
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I'm honestly concerned that the MEC even shopped this to the pilot group. That means they think there's a chance we'll like it lol
That means they’re trying to be open. That’s very good
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Old 03-24-2020, 10:03 AM
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That means they’re trying to be open. That’s very good
I suppose so. This thing really contextualizes past LOAs they've secretly agreed to without pilot input. I can see why they got really excited when the company offered anything whatsoever.
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Old 03-24-2020, 10:12 AM
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I suppose so. This thing really contextualizes past LOAs they've secretly agreed to without pilot input. I can see why they got really excited when the company offered anything whatsoever.
They didn’t offer us anything to be excited about. It was a direct concession with nothing in return. Am I misunderstanding what you are trying to say?
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Old 03-24-2020, 10:15 AM
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They didn’t offer us anything to be excited about. It was a direct concession with nothing in return. Am I misunderstanding what you are trying to say?
Yes, in every respect.

1. I am reflecting on past LOAs (such as pay raise) in this post.
2. I am saying there was nothing to be excited about, but they got excited anyway because something was offered at all.
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Old 03-24-2020, 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by NoValueAviator View Post
Yes, in every respect.

1. I am reflecting on past LOAs (such as pay raise) in this post.
2. I am saying there was nothing to be excited about, but they got excited anyway because something was offered at all.
Based on my usually credible sources, the consensus inside the MEC is "this is total horse manure" Excitement level is pretty much 0.
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Old 03-24-2020, 10:24 AM
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Based on my usually credible sources, the consensus inside the MEC is "this is total horse manure" Excitement level is pretty much 0.
Thank god.
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Old 03-24-2020, 10:48 AM
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Who knows really. Bottom line is they have been trying to remove this provision long before Covid-19. This alone makes their offer suspicious at best and down right predatory at worst. I’m leaning more towards the latter.
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They’ve been around A LOT longer than half of the pilots on property been alive, they know exactly what they’re doing and what they’ll get out of it. They wouldn’t be pushing so hard for it if it wasn't the case.
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