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03-24-2020 | 09:47 AM

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martyByrde

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Originally Posted by dera

Approving an LOA without posting it is just as bad as refusing one without posting it.

what are the chances of the company doing something shady and withholding OT regardless?

03-24-2020 | 09:50 AM

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what are the chances of the company doing something shady and withholding OT regardless?

already done to a limited extent with red/redder.

03-24-2020 | 09:53 AM

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I'm honestly concerned that the MEC even shopped this to the pilot group. That means they think there's a chance we'll like it lol

That means they’re trying to be open. That’s very good

03-24-2020 | 10:03 AM

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That means they’re trying to be open. That’s very good

I suppose so. This thing really contextualizes past LOAs they've secretly agreed to without pilot input. I can see why they got really excited when the company offered anything whatsoever.

03-24-2020 | 10:12 AM

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I suppose so. This thing really contextualizes past LOAs they've secretly agreed to without pilot input. I can see why they got really excited when the company offered anything whatsoever.

They didn’t offer us anything to be excited about. It was a direct concession with nothing in return. Am I misunderstanding what you are trying to say?

03-24-2020 | 10:15 AM

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They didn’t offer us anything to be excited about. It was a direct concession with nothing in return. Am I misunderstanding what you are trying to say?

Yes, in every respect.

1. I am reflecting on past LOAs (such as pay raise) in this post.
2. I am saying there was nothing to be excited about, but they got excited anyway because something was offered at all.

03-24-2020 | 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by NoValueAviator

Based on my usually credible sources, the consensus inside the MEC is "this is total horse manure" Excitement level is pretty much 0.

03-24-2020 | 10:24 AM

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Cyio

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Based on my usually credible sources, the consensus inside the MEC is "this is total horse manure" Excitement level is pretty much 0.

Thank god.

03-24-2020 | 10:48 AM

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Who knows really. Bottom line is they have been trying to remove this provision long before Covid-19. This alone makes their offer suspicious at best and down right predatory at worst. I’m leaning more towards the latter.
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They’ve been around A LOT longer than half of the pilots on property been alive, they know exactly what they’re doing and what they’ll get out of it. They wouldn’t be pushing so hard for it if it wasn't the case.