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Old 04-15-2020 | 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by rld1k
for what? You don't get paid to fly on reserve so you don't have any damages to be made whole. Not to mention I don't think they are even obligated to assign to the turn back list first
All of this is completely wrong.
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Old 04-15-2020 | 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by dera
The important part of that email is the OT volunteer list. Everyone should get on that list.
Because crew scheduling has never called a reserve out before an OT volunteer.

/s

Make sure to watch open time awards if you do put yourself on the list and file your grievance when they inevitably skip over you.
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Old 04-15-2020 | 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by MEGAFUPM
Because crew scheduling has never called a reserve out before an OT volunteer.

/s

Make sure to watch open time awards if you do put yourself on the list and file your grievance when they inevitably skip over you.
These disputes have a very high success rate.
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Old 04-15-2020 | 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by acip
Are you referring to the OT volunteer list? I thought you only get paid if they call you and you accept flying?
If they don't offer it to you, you have a dispute because of inappropriate order of assignments.
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Old 04-15-2020 | 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by MqWhistleblower
I put myself on the volunteer list all the time and CS never calls me. Now with QT being gone is really hard to keep track when a trip opened up.

Once again, we got played by the company- in a bunch of aspects, and now the union is supporting people to put themselves on the return list, therefore people won’t be able to appropriate flying.

With all due respect, whoever wrote that email didn’t think very well.

I still stand in unity!
If CS doesn't call you, file a dispute. Easy money. It is a contractual requirement to offer the trip for you. If they don't, it's a violation and you have been harmed.

CCI / Pre-flight documents / Input Required / Open Time - Award Info. Shows the notification time. If 3+ hours, it should have been offered to OT volunteers first.
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Old 04-15-2020 | 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by MEGAFUPM
Because crew scheduling has never called a reserve out before an OT volunteer.

/s

Make sure to watch open time awards if you do put yourself on the list and file your grievance when they inevitably skip over you.
It’s very time consuming, plus if you are not the most senior guy on the list, you are not getting compensated anyway even if there is a dispute. Also, while you are keeping an eye on open time, somebody else might just pick it up via ATTOT. Unless CS make sure they call volunteers the moment OT becomes available, the list is completely useless otherwise.
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Old 04-15-2020 | 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by acip
It’s very time consuming, plus if you are not the most senior guy on the list, you are not getting compensated anyway even if there is a dispute. Also, while you are keeping an eye on open time, somebody else might just pick it up via ATTOT. Unless CS make sure they call volunteers the moment OT becomes available, the list is completely useless otherwise.
No.
First of all, you can't ATTOT same day assignments. OT volunteer list only applies for daily OT bidding.
The trips have to be offered for OT volunteers, each and every one of them, before assigning it to a reserve. One of them will get paid unless this process is followed.
And how the heck is it time consuming to check one list once a day? If you didn't get a phone call, check the open time assignments, if something was assigned over 3 hours in advance, someone has a dispute. Might as well be you.
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Old 04-15-2020 | 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by acip
It’s very time consuming, plus if you are not the most senior guy on the list, you are not getting compensated anyway even if there is a dispute. Also, while you are keeping an eye on open time, somebody else might just pick it up via ATTOT. Unless CS make sure they call volunteers the moment OT becomes available, the list is completely useless otherwise.
All of this is false.
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Old 04-15-2020 | 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by dera
No.
First of all, you can't ATTOT same day assignments. OT volunteer list only applies for daily OT bidding.
The trips have to be offered for OT volunteers, each and every one of them, before assigning it to a reserve. One of them will get paid unless this process is followed.
And how the heck is it time consuming to check one list once a day? If you didn't get a phone call, check the open time assignments, if something was assigned over 3 hours in advance, someone has a dispute. Might as well be you.
What happens if somebody calls CS on the day off to pick up flying? Are they supposed to decline it, until they have called people on the volunteer list first?
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Old 04-15-2020 | 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by dera
If they don't offer it to you, you have a dispute because of inappropriate order of assignments.
What are we talking here, the equivalent of taking a random drug test or is there an actual incentive when you win a dispute?
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