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Old 04-15-2020 | 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Chato
What are we talking here, the equivalent of taking a random drug test or is there an actual incentive when you win a dispute?
Disputes pay whatever your harm was.
The usual remedy on these is that you get paid for the trip they did not offer to you.
4 hour trip opens and they don't offer it to you, you get paid 4 hours.
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Old 04-15-2020 | 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by dera
If they don't offer it to you, you have a dispute because of inappropriate order of assignments.
^^^^ This I made lots of credit hours filing disputes that were black and white.
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Old 04-15-2020 | 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by dera
Disputes pay whatever your harm was.
The usual remedy on these is that you get paid for the trip they did not offer to you.
4 hour trip opens and they don't offer it to you, you get paid 4 hours.
This is the type of information that should be on an email from the union. The amount of additional work the company is creating for themselves by taking away quicktrade and the pilot force knowing this would make a huge difference towards bringing back that app.

Ballpark 70% of pilots have been on property less than 3-4 years and do not know this.
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Old 04-15-2020 | 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Chato
This is the type of information that should be on an email from the union. The amount of additional work the company is creating for themselves by taking away quicktrade and the pilot force knowing this would make a huge difference towards bringing back that app.

Ballpark 70% of pilots have been on property less than 3-4 years and do not know this.
Agreed! Pilots are not well informed, either by complacency, care less or lack of understanding- contract wise. You can clearly see that with posts on Facebook, apc, whatsapp groups. The union should do a better job at this, rather than trying to help the company out teaching guys how to put themselves back on the return list.

I’m strongly disappointed with this email, and I still want to see a strongly worded email against the company. Wondering if someone in the union has the balls to send one.
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Old 04-15-2020 | 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by MqWhistleblower
Agreed! Pilots are not well informed, either by complacency, care less or lack of understanding- contract wise. You can clearly see that with posts on Facebook, apc, whatsapp groups. The union should do a better job at this, rather than trying to help the company out teaching guys how to put themselves back on the return list.
It's not the unions job to teach you how to read. It's clearly spelled out in the contract, and isn't ambiguous or up for interpretation like many parts. There's also plenty of guides on the union and company website for how to use DECS. Maybe you should take some responsibility for yourself and not expect to be spoon fed everything.
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Old 04-15-2020 | 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Chato
This is the type of information that should be on an email from the union. The amount of additional work the company is creating for themselves by taking away quicktrade and the pilot force knowing this would make a huge difference towards bringing back that app.

Ballpark 70% of pilots have been on property less than 3-4 years and do not know this.
See post above.
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Old 04-15-2020 | 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by MqWhistleblower
Agreed! Pilots are not well informed, either by complacency, care less or lack of understanding- contract wise. You can clearly see that with posts on Facebook, apc, whatsapp groups. The union should do a better job at this, rather than trying to help the company out teaching guys how to put themselves back on the return list.

I’m strongly disappointed with this email, and I still want to see a strongly worded email against the company. Wondering if someone in the union has the balls to send one.
Ask Atlas how ballsy emails and strong words have worked for them. Especially when company starts suing the union for illegal work actions.
Some things are better handled by pilots and their own initiative.
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Old 04-15-2020 | 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by dera
Ask Atlas how ballsy emails and strong words have worked for them. Especially when company starts suing the union for illegal work actions.
Some things are better handled by pilots and their own initiative.
I can see their point though, that email clearly states “help the company” or something along those lines. I mean with everything this managment team has done to us I don’t think we need to be told to go the extra mile for the company.

I agree about people needing to educate themselves but I also think we can do more to educate. I love the new ORD newsletter, always find something I can use. I distinctly remember about 1.5-2 years ago the Union was starting to send out informational and tips and tricks letters.

Anyway.
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Old 04-15-2020 | 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by dera
Ask Atlas how ballsy emails and strong words have worked for them. Especially when company starts suing the union for illegal work actions.
Some things are better handled by pilots and their own initiative.
There’s nothing illegal with a strongly worded email. Our emails are pretty damn chill/borderline scared of management.

I would love to be wrong but I guess a vast majority of our pilots agree with me.
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Old 04-15-2020 | 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by MEGAFUPM
It's not the unions job to teach you how to read. It's clearly spelled out in the contract, and isn't ambiguous or up for interpretation like many parts. There's also plenty of guides on the union and company website for how to use DECS. Maybe you should take some responsibility for yourself and not expect to be spoon fed everything.
Excuse me? I know our contract pretty well. I’m speaking to the new hires and pilots who have some pretty basic questions. One thing I can assure you is that I know our contract pretty well. I just feel sorry for guys who don’t, and get played.
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