Thedude86

Has nothing to do with wanting more deaths. If someone is going to die anyway and they just happen to show covid symptoms. They’re allowed to be marked as a covid death. If someone dies of a heart attack anyway, why would would anyone not count it as covid if they’re legally allowed to and there’s a financial incentive. Dr. Birx herself has said we are one of the few countries in the entire world that count covid deaths this way.

In a few states the average age of covid deaths is OLDER than the average age of deaths in general. You really think all of these people are actually dying from Covid when dr. Birx admits if it’s heart disease, heart attack, stroke, etc. it can still be counted as a covid death? Really?

And why are you accusing people of being ok with covid deaths? The percentages are the same as the flu. That’s even WITH a flu vaccine AND assuming all 100k covid deaths are strictly only covid. By you’re own argument you’re saying flu deaths are acceptable. Yet, covid you decide to raise a red flag. Why the discrepancy? Do you not care about flu patients?

Most estimates put the number of asymptomatic cases above 50%. There’s several studies that show this. But even if you don’t believe that, the CDC even claims its 35% on their website. There’s a good chance a lot of us have already had it. Especially being in the travel industry. Either you need to start caring about flu patients too, or you need to put your big boy pants on and get over it.

Excargodog

Sorry, but hospital personnel were furloughed...yes, furloughed, because they weren’t allowed to do elective surgeries and other routine procedures, like Pap smears and mammograms and screening colonoscopies necessary to detect the 3 million new cancers discovered each year. A mobile military hospital put up in Centurylink field in Seattle was packed up nine days later without ever seeing a patient. Navy hospital ships sent to New York and LA were sent home after being barely Used.


Only New York and New Jersey exceeded their beds available, New Jersey for a few days, New York (because of infecting all it’s nursing home patients by transferring contagious COVID patients there then bringing back to the hospital all the patients they had infected) for about three weeks.

Most states, like Florida and California, had empty beds aplenty:

Monkeytown

This so called pandemic was all fake news we almost killed this nation on a .2% chance of dying. Cardiac disease kills 2000 people a day I don’t see us shutting down fast food restaurants, car accidents kill 75,000 people in the US a year why don’t we drive 25 miles an hour. I will tell you why we take risks. If you are scared stay at home. Don’t take my right to work. And masks don’t stop the virus all fake news.

pangolin

New research shows the masks help.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucele...9-coronavirus/

I agree it was overreaction.

HulkaBurger

Wow. Lots of original thoughts that no one has posted on this site less than several thousand times.

Well done.

Cyio

One problem here. If you choose to be a pig and die of a heart attack, it is only you that dies. There is a reason we have laws against drunk driving, drugs, speeding etc. it’s to stop people who want to do things their way from hurting others. Sure not everyone obeys those laws but most do, at least fairly closely.

If you have a highly contagious disease and let people run rampant as they choose, individuals are putting others as risk.

ag386

OMG dude! WTF! Keep the sick, older and susceptible confined if necessary. Open everything else up 100% now. If you have watched too much MSM and CNN and are quaking in your boots, by all means, feel free to keep yourself at home while the world keeps turning. If the death rates of this were on the scale of what was modeled in the beginning, you might have a case. It has proven though to be nowhere near the case.

Excargodog

Not true, actually. If you have a HIGHLY contagious disease, everybody eventually gets it regardless - see chickenpox before there was a vaccine. Quarantine of INFECTED makes sense if the disease is infectious, has fairly lethality, but not HIGHLY contagious - see smallpox before vaccinations.

But quarantining the vast bulk of uninflected so they don’t get a disease has never really worked. Or if it You believe it has, please cite me a case where it did.

Cyio

I swear you two live in a bubble or something. This was a brand new thing we didn’t know enough about. You don’t go banking on the optimistic side of things when you don’t understand it. Sure now it’s easy to say some of what you are saying, or that in some areas we could have opened sooner, but three months ago that wasn’t the case.

As for your underhanded insult or that I am somehow politically motivated, I have never watched CNN or MSN, so blows that theory out of the water.

Cyio

It wasn’t to stop us from all getting it, it was to stop too many of us from getting it at the same time. Do you even understand what happened? This was a resource management issue they had to balance. Of course herd immunity will eventually happen but we couldn’t have everyone getting sick all at once or else the numbers would have been way worse.