Cyio

Which facts am I struggling to understand? Sure the trend is decreasing at a national level, because the places that had the absolute highest levels of deaths have flattened out ie. New York. This doesn't mean that the rest of us nor New York are out of the weeds or that 100,000 deaths is something to not be sensitive about.
Damn, what did I do to you to be deserving of such a comparison? You know this is a discussion board and unlike ThKooj I am not posting flagrant lies for the sake of trolling or misleading.
I can put it into perspective, in fact that is exactly what I was doing. The perspective that while we do lose 2 million people a year, this is an event that is non-normal and has already taken 100,000 peoples lives. My comment about being insensitive is just that, my opinion. You dont know who on these boards may have lost someone and you just logging on and nonchalantly stating it like its isn't a big deal, is insensitive. My perspective is fine.

This went off track obviously, as my comments are usually geared around the economy and how some on this board seem to only want to see things in a positive light, as if we are going to snap back in a couple of months. As I said, AA/Envoy may be insulated for the time being, but the rest of the country isnt.

May Economic Decline

GDP -5%
I say all of this with the hopes that people get a realistic view of things. Sure, the economy could do better than they predict, although it hasn't yet and in many cases, is lagging behind still, with the nearly sole exception of stocks. If you dont have a back up plan, money set aside or the desire to wait this out, you need to look at it from the worst case scenario and plan accordingly.

Call me what you want, but this isnt going to be over in a few months and it has most likely added years to your flow. I certainly am not wishing that, because it potentially added years to mine as well, but I am making plans if things dont rebound sooner rather than later.

Thedude86

When a person dies of the flu, it’s counted as a flu death. When a person dies of a heart attack it’s counted as such. If they happen to be diagnosed with covid and they die of a stroke, heart attack, diabetes, etc... it’s counted as a covid death. This has been confirmed by Dr. Birx and this is how every state is counting it. The 2019/2020 flu season is pretty much over and there’s only about 25k deaths. Yet, 2017/2018 had over 80k flu deaths. Maybe the flu wasn’t so bad this year.... ORRRR maybe a lot of those flu deaths are being counted as Covid. I find it hard to believe that there was a 70% difference.

Regardless, even if you truly believe that all 100k covid deaths are 100% strictly from Covid and nothing else. The updated death rate is 0.26% and it is most likely lower. It actually is a fact that half the deaths are from nursing homes. So the death rate is actually .13% (most likely lower) if you’re not in a nursing home. Or in other words... THE FLU. Do you not care about the Flu? Are you going to wear your mask for the rest of your life?

pangolin

Social distancing and lock downs have stopped the spread of the Flu. It doesn’t discriminate.

Thedude86

66% of covid patients were people obeying the lockdowns and only going to essential places. Per governor Cuomo. Lockdowns did jack squat. Doesn’t make much of a difference to close parks when you’re rarely in close proximity to someone else. Yet, there are hundreds of people in the grocery stores and Home Depot. The virus doesn’t discriminate locations.

Regardless, let’s assume the lockdowns actually made a difference. Percentages don’t discriminate people obeying lockdown orders. Based on math, what’s your argument to freak out over covid and not anything else. Percentages are the same. And that’s even WITH a flu vaccine. Even if the 100k is truly only covid... Are you telling me that if someone told you back in 2017 that the flu was gonna be 20% worse that you would freak out and be ok with shutting down the entire country? I think not. I bet if you doubled the flu numbers people would still not give a rats behind.

ninerdriver

It all depends on the state. Some states report the number of deaths each day. Other states report the number of deaths that they had since the last report. Those other states skew the data to make it look like Covid bids weekends off.

Helij3t

I can name fingers and point names ....... Lol Capt Jack Sparrow.
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johnboat

Hospitals all over the world have been overwhelmed in order to reduce the death rate to what you think is acceptable. People may not die but they still take up hospital beds.

Battlinbear

There is a large incentive to mark COD as “Covid” on the paperwork. Maybe you have seen what’s happened to smaller regional hospitals? Furloughs, clotures, floors being locked up. They would love to have more covid patients. Why? because the govt is paying hospitals insane amounts of cash for each vid death in their hospital. Dr marks covid, the register sounds like a vegas slot w 777. Wife’s surgical floor was covid overflow.. for only 10 days. Been back to surgeries 3 weeks now, good sign for “hot spot” She got a antibody test a while ago and was positive. If it’s as contagious as everyone says it is, no doubt i was also exposed w zero symptoms. Lots of prayers sent that this is the case for most of the population. Stay Safe! Most importantly, stay healthy everyone!

johnboat

I'm sure hospitals all over the country are itching to have more "vid" deaths so the can get that sweet slot machine sound, doctors and nurses love that sound. Please tell me you haven't been flying considering your exposure.

highfarfast

Your post sounds like your confusing test for the virus vs test for the antibodies. He was referring to his wife having tested positive for having the antibodies and presumed she already had the virus at some point in the past and didn't know it so HE must have had it in the past and didn't know it. IF he has the antibodies for THIS virus now, he's safe, as in he can't get it or spread it.

However, there appears to be an accuracy problem with many of the antibody tests out there. A lot are giving false positives.