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Old 05-22-2020 | 06:49 AM
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Why would anyone be surprised that we're more profitable than the people doing the exact same thing for 4-10x the labor costs?

Of course AA is bringing us back first.
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Old 05-22-2020 | 08:41 AM
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At this point it's anyone's guess what they are doing when it comes to staffing. I will continue to come into work and look for the coveted Slurpee machine as well as pray for an air hockey table.
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Old 05-22-2020 | 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by NoValueAviator
Why would anyone be surprised that we're more profitable than the people doing the exact same thing for 4-10x the labor costs?

Of course AA is bringing us back first.
I expect this to be short lived unless there is another stimulus. Summer flying by regionals to save money, then massive cuts across the board after CARES act restrictions are lifted
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Old 05-22-2020 | 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by AV8R72
I expect this to be short lived unless there is another stimulus. Summer flying by regionals to save money, then massive cuts across the board after CARES act restrictions are lifted
Bingo. If we do see increased utilization in the next couple of months, it will simply be to maintain CARES Act required service at the lower production cost that we provide to AAG. Contrary to the weekly “oooh, look at TSA counts” circle that pops up on the ORD FB, the national/global economy isn’t going to be healthy for some time. 01OCT quickly approaches with a dose of market reality.
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Old 05-22-2020 | 06:34 PM
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So that’s why it would be smart for them to offer the leave again?
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Old 05-26-2020 | 09:56 AM
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You’d think they’d offer more CSLOAs, but who knows at this point. If AA has to downsize ENY/PSA/PDT this fall (voluntary or involuntary furloughs), I’d expect to see something reminiscent to the 5-year voluntary LOA they offered years back.
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Old 05-26-2020 | 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Voski
You’d think they’d offer more CSLOAs, but who knows at this point. If AA has to downsize ENY/PSA/PDT this fall (voluntary or involuntary furloughs), I’d expect to see something reminiscent to the 5-year voluntary LOA they offered years back.
I really hope they offer something like a 5 year leave
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Old 05-26-2020 | 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by uavking
Bingo. If we do see increased utilization in the next couple of months, it will simply be to maintain CARES Act required service at the lower production cost that we provide to AAG. Contrary to the weekly “oooh, look at TSA counts” circle that pops up on the ORD FB, the national/global economy isn’t going to be healthy for some time. 01OCT quickly approaches with a dose of market reality.
It's an interesting scenario if it goes like you say.

If they'd just furloughed us in April we'd be collecting unemployment until at least July, which would be a big raise for most of our FO's right now. Except in Dallas apparently, where there's beaucoup OT.
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Old 05-26-2020 | 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by NoValueAviator
It's an interesting scenario if it goes like you say.

If they'd just furloughed us in April we'd be collecting unemployment until at least July, which would be a big raise for most of our FO's right now. Except in Dallas apparently, where there's beaucoup OT.
I am friends with a pilot at SWA and they haven't been used in nearly 90 days, so much so that they are going to have currency issues. The extra flying we are seeing are just because we can do it cheaper than mainline. The people on here saying flying is picking up and this is a "flash in the pan" are crazy. In much of the country cases are increasing with hotspots popping up.

This is going to take time and I really hope they offer another round of LOA's.
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Old 05-26-2020 | 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Cyio
I am friends with a pilot at SWA and they haven't been used in nearly 90 days, so much so that they are going to have currency issues. The extra flying we are seeing are just because we can do it cheaper than mainline. The people on here saying flying is picking up and this is a "flash in the pan" are crazy. In much of the country cases are increasing with hotspots popping up.

This is going to take time and I really hope they offer another round of LOA's.
We'll be 50% of 2019 tsa numbers by July.
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