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Old 05-08-2020 | 06:46 AM
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Originally Posted by ClappedOut145
F/A's are being asked to voluntarily come off of CSLOA in June in DFW due to the addition of 2,000 hours of flying from another contract carrier who operates in DFW.
This is interesting. Is this being added in time to be a part of our June lines?
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Old 05-08-2020 | 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by ClappedOut145
F/A's are being asked to voluntarily come off of CSLOA in June in DFW due to the addition of 2,000 hours of flying from another contract carrier who operates in DFW.
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Do you have numbers on how many FAs took the CSLOA in DFW?
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Old 05-08-2020 | 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by highfarfast
This is interesting. Is this being added in time to be a part of our June lines?
You can see the cities in the May open time flying. MKE, TYS, FSD and a couple others were Mesa overnights. Assuming the same will show up next month.
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Old 05-08-2020 | 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by highfarfast
OK, here's the worst case scenario math.

We're looking at 19 hours on leave vs 75 hours on reserve. So a difference of 56 hours. If you are on the lowest pay step in the company, that be $50.71. That 56 hour difference equates to $2,839.76. Assuming needing hotels and they cost $100 per night (they'd be cheaper), you could get 28 hotel rooms before the leave paid better. Wort case scenario, you need 20 hotel stays, 4 of which the company pays for so 16 hotels that you pay for. So, back to using $100 for the cost of a hotel room ($1600), you'd come out $1,239.76 ahead by skipping the leave and doing reserve. And this is a worst case scenario where you never are able to proffer out of first day AM raps and are never able to get assigned to an overnight. Of course, if you're on a higher pay step, this tilts even farther away from taking the leave. A CA on step 3 small jet pay would be $2,908.56 in the positive. A CA on step 5 big jet pay would be $3,590.08 in the positive.

But that's only money angle, some will say the difference isn't worth the time away from home/family but no one can calculate the value of that to an individual. And some will have other means of making money while on leave that may exceed what they'd get if they stuck out reserve. I'm not really arguing against those things. Just pointing out the money difference.
Again, if you held a line before and find yourself on reserve in June, there is literally 0% chance you will be called.
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Old 05-08-2020 | 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by pitchattitude
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Do you have numbers on how many FAs took the CSLOA in DFW?
there was a union update sent out the flight attendants by email.
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Old 05-08-2020 | 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by MEGAFUPM
Again, if you held a line before and find yourself on reserve in June, there is literally 0% chance you will be called.
Thats a dangerous game to be playing. Not saying it isnt played, but yikes.
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Old 05-08-2020 | 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Cyio
Thats a dangerous game to be playing. Not saying it isnt played, but yikes.
Under normal circumstances, yes. When there's daily 30-40 people below you with at most 1-2 trips per day in open time, no.
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Old 05-08-2020 | 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by MEGAFUPM
Under normal circumstances, yes. When there's daily 30-40 people below you with at most 1-2 trips per day in open time, no.
"Captain Smith this is Todd from CS, you have an assignment. You need to report to the CPO in 2 hours."
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Old 05-08-2020 | 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by MEGAFUPM
Again, if you held a line before and find yourself on reserve in June, there is literally 0% chance you will be called.
Maybe.

I was talking to a guy that held a line in April in ORD but couldn't in May. I made the same comment to him and he said there were a lot of senor people that bid reserve so he wasn't as far up the list as I would have thought.

Things like this make people bid different than usual and that can mess up your plans.
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Old 05-08-2020 | 02:40 PM
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CPO encouraging people to drop trips also factors in w reserve folks being used more than usual
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