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Old 04-12-2020 | 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Chato
many thought they would be 11-12 days off lines but if that was the case they’d be paying a lot more on per diem and hotels, so I see why these lines look this way.

It’s just gonna suck for anyone holding a junior spot
That was the initial plan. They got it changed at the last minute.
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Old 04-12-2020 | 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by dera
23 days off with 72 hours credit. I'll take that over 11 days off with a slight risk of getting called.
I guess it depends on how senior you are.
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Old 04-12-2020 | 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by NoValueAviator
These are full time lines on a part time footprint/block. This is tantamount to paying pilots who are senior enough to hold one of these lines a cash bonus. I am sure the MEC is fine with that, My disbelief is that the company would do it.
I just did a cursory read through of the contract and didn't see any glaring issues. What exactly would make this illegal for them to do? I could be wrong but I didn't see anything.
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Old 04-12-2020 | 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by dera
23 days off with 72 hours credit. I'll take that over 11 days off with a slight risk of getting called.
Again, to each their own, but if I lived in base I would be bidding reserve to help commuters. Again, so people don't jump down my throat, I totally would understand why someone wouldn't do that as well.
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Old 04-12-2020 | 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Cyio
Again, to each their own, but if I lived in base I would be bidding reserve to help commuters. Again, so people don't jump down my throat, I totally would understand why someone wouldn't do that as well.
you prob would not.. some of these 4 day trips are 20+ hours... if you have 19 days off I’ll take a wild guess you’ll help yourself.
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Old 04-12-2020 | 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Cyio
I just did a cursory read through of the contract and didn't see any glaring issues. What exactly would make this illegal for them to do? I could be wrong but I didn't see anything.
I'm sure it's legal for them to just give us free money. I think the contract dispute, if anything, is going to come from everyone who took the CSLOA getting buyers remorse.
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Old 04-12-2020 | 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by NoValueAviator
I'm sure it's legal for them to just give us free money. I think the contract dispute, if anything, is going to come from everyone who took the CSLOA getting buyers remorse.
Yeah well, its not like people didn't scream it was a bad idea. I don't want to start down that argument path again so won't say much more on it. However, the reason for everyone to be OK with that deal was that it was free and was good for some people, so what has changed? Even still, this line building will only benefit the first 60 or so pilots, at least for ORD, so if you couldn't hold one of these lines the 19 hours may still be a good thing if you don't want to commute/sit reserve, again assuming it was good for you initially.
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Old 04-12-2020 | 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Cyio
Yeah well, its not like people didn't scream it was a bad idea. I don't want to start down that argument path again so won't say much more on it. However, the reason for everyone to be OK with that deal was that it was free and was good for some people, so what has changed? Even still, this line building will only benefit the first 60 or so pilots, at least for ORD, so if you couldn't hold one of these lines the 19 hours may still be a good thing if you don't want to commute/sit reserve, again assuming it was good for you initially.
I think you think I want to take away people's money. Absolutely not. If I get my way, everyone sits at home with pay.

I just can't believe it, and I'm waiting for the "finalized bid packet" shoe to drop or something.
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Old 04-12-2020 | 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by NoValueAviator
I think you think I want to take away people's money. Absolutely not. If I get my way, everyone sits at home with pay.

I just can't believe it, and I'm waiting for the "finalized bid packet" shoe to drop or something.
This is it.
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Old 04-12-2020 | 01:21 PM
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Sucks for all those poor b**trds who took leave
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