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Old 04-09-2020 | 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by johnboat
I'd prefer not to merge, but if we did I would hope it was with Piedmont. I always liked that pilot group.
I agree. No issues with Piedmont group. I agree with dera though, more likely Piedmond and PSA merge than us with either.
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Old 04-09-2020 | 11:35 PM
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I'm not sure if/when/how any unification of the 3 W/Os will ever happen, but some of you guys need to understand that mergers between the 3 W/Os are not all about the pilots and the aircraft.

A big function performed by the regionals is providing all the ground services at all the outstations. Envoy has people at places we don't fly to, and we've gone to many places that were handled by Envoy, PDT, heck even TSA ground crew.

When the number crunchers start calculating their cost savings from merging our companies, the decision will be based on if there are any savings to be made by putting all those personnel under one management team. Since there is very little overlap between any of the 3 companies in that regard, it would be hard to see much saving coming from merging any of us. The transition and training costs could easily overwhelm it.
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Old 04-10-2020 | 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Tyrion
I'm not sure if/when/how any unification of the 3 W/Os will ever happen, but some of you guys need to understand that mergers between the 3 W/Os are not all about the pilots and the aircraft.

A big function performed by the regionals is providing all the ground services at all the outstations. Envoy has people at places we don't fly to, and we've gone to many places that were handled by Envoy, PDT, heck even TSA ground crew.

When the number crunchers start calculating their cost savings from merging our companies, the decision will be based on if there are any savings to be made by putting all those personnel under one management team. Since there is very little overlap between any of the 3 companies in that regard, it would be hard to see much saving coming from merging any of us. The transition and training costs could easily overwhelm it.
What would save them a ton of money is to shut down Envoy and get rid of the unionized rampers. Give the E175's to Piedmont, get rid of all the 50 seaters.
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Old 04-10-2020 | 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by ImmaAHole
What would save them a ton of money is to shut down Envoy and get rid of the unionized rampers. Give the E175's to Piedmont, get rid of all the 50 seaters.
right, sure.
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Old 04-10-2020 | 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by ImmaAHole
What would save them a ton of money is to shut down Envoy and get rid of the unionized rampers. Give the E175's to Piedmont, get rid of all the 50 seaters.
You guys were flying props until early 19, struggling to get the 145 program approved by the FAA, and now you want the 175 at Piedmont? Hahaha you actually made me laugh

you got more jokes?
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Old 04-10-2020 | 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by dera
Can't staple any more.
And there's a lot of respect between PDT and Envoy unions, I'm sure they would find a good solution for the SLI.

Even though it really isn't the plausible merger any time soon.
Even though they caved on concessions right after PSA did, and shouldn't have flow in the first place.
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Old 04-10-2020 | 11:32 AM
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Are we trying to pick a PDT-ENY fight now? WTF? They are two great companies with great pilot groups, and we’ll all get to know each other much better as we chat at the unemployment offices in the lines at the soup kitchens.
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Old 04-10-2020 | 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by MqWhistleblower
You guys were flying props until early 19, struggling to get the 145 program approved by the FAA, and now you want the 175 at Piedmont? Hahaha you actually made me laugh

you got more jokes?
look at their post history before assuming they’re at Piedmont...
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Old 04-10-2020 | 12:41 PM
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Are we trying to pick a PDT-ENY fight now? WTF? They are two great companies with great pilot groups, and we’ll all get to know each other much better as we chat at the unemployment offices in the lines at the soup kitchens.
Yeah, we should be making plans to share our Ramen, not picking a fight with one another.
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Old 04-10-2020 | 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by But seriously
Are we trying to pick a PDT-ENY fight now? WTF? They are two great companies with great pilot groups, and we’ll all get to know each other much better as we chat at the unemployment offices in the lines at the soup kitchens.
2 trash companies with garbage management**
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