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#42
If you remember, prior to the bankruptcy merger, non owned feed providers were called American Connection. Only owned carriers were American Eagle. That was when the control and branding were more important.... back when having a top line global product was important, not trying to beat the LCC's at their own game.
People who were at Eagle before it was Envoy remember a day when the weren't MEL's all over the place, when something broke, it got fixed by the next day, two at most. A time when Eagle wings were hard to earn, not show up with 1450 hrs and fog a mirror. A time when a low time new hire was well over 3000TT if not much more. A time when the FO didn't immediately try to turn his cell phone on right after clearing the runway (after checking his GoPro of course). A time when guys wore the uniform correctly and proudly, with their hats, and no bakpacks and ear buds be-bopping through the terminal to the latest tune.
I digress.....
LOL
Cheers
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Not always the sole factor. For AA, it has always been a control issue, product/brand protection. Since the merger/bankruptcy cost factor has become more important to them then control & branding.
If you remember, prior to the bankruptcy merger, non owned feed providers were called American Connection. Only owned carriers were American Eagle. That was when the control and branding were more important.... back when having a top line global product was important, not trying to beat the LCC's at their own game.
People who were at Eagle before it was Envoy remember a day when the weren't MEL's all over the place, when something broke, it got fixed by the next day, two at most. A time when Eagle wings were hard to earn, not show up with 14500 hrs and fog a mirror. A time when a low time new hire was well over 3000TT if not much more. A time when the FO didn't immediately try to turn his cell phone on right after clearing the runway (after checking his GoPro of course). A time when guys wore the uniform correctly and proudly, with their hats, and no bakpacks and ear buds be-bopping through the terminal to the latest tune.
I digress.....
LOL
Cheers
If you remember, prior to the bankruptcy merger, non owned feed providers were called American Connection. Only owned carriers were American Eagle. That was when the control and branding were more important.... back when having a top line global product was important, not trying to beat the LCC's at their own game.
People who were at Eagle before it was Envoy remember a day when the weren't MEL's all over the place, when something broke, it got fixed by the next day, two at most. A time when Eagle wings were hard to earn, not show up with 14500 hrs and fog a mirror. A time when a low time new hire was well over 3000TT if not much more. A time when the FO didn't immediately try to turn his cell phone on right after clearing the runway (after checking his GoPro of course). A time when guys wore the uniform correctly and proudly, with their hats, and no bakpacks and ear buds be-bopping through the terminal to the latest tune.
I digress.....
LOL
Cheers
I realize that most of the last paragraph was partially tongue in cheek, but...
I was an FO at EGL before ENY was even a gleam in Dan Garton’s eye.
I was hired at 1450hrs
No one had a GoPro, but many of my CAs had me taxiing in with pedals from 27R so they could pack up their sh*t and bolt the second the door opened.
My IOE CA as a NH met me in the terminal wearing tennis shoes and a backpack
The last three weeks I don’t think there has been a single MEL on any plane I’ve flown. That’s probably because half are parked in ABI and the other half fly two legs then terminate for the day...
Your memory might be a little affected by nostalgia
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Not always the sole factor. For AA, it has always been a control issue, product/brand protection. Since the merger/bankruptcy cost factor has become more important to them then control & branding.
If you remember, prior to the bankruptcy merger, non owned feed providers were called American Connection. Only owned carriers were American Eagle. That was when the control and branding were more important.... back when having a top line global product was important, not trying to beat the LCC's at their own game.
People who were at Eagle before it was Envoy remember a day when the weren't MEL's all over the place, when something broke, it got fixed by the next day, two at most. A time when Eagle wings were hard to earn, not show up with 14500 hrs and fog a mirror. A time when a low time new hire was well over 3000TT if not much more. A time when the FO didn't immediately try to turn his cell phone on right after clearing the runway (after checking his GoPro of course). A time when guys wore the uniform correctly and proudly, with their hats, and no bakpacks and ear buds be-bopping through the terminal to the latest tune.
I digress.....
LOL
Cheers
If you remember, prior to the bankruptcy merger, non owned feed providers were called American Connection. Only owned carriers were American Eagle. That was when the control and branding were more important.... back when having a top line global product was important, not trying to beat the LCC's at their own game.
People who were at Eagle before it was Envoy remember a day when the weren't MEL's all over the place, when something broke, it got fixed by the next day, two at most. A time when Eagle wings were hard to earn, not show up with 14500 hrs and fog a mirror. A time when a low time new hire was well over 3000TT if not much more. A time when the FO didn't immediately try to turn his cell phone on right after clearing the runway (after checking his GoPro of course). A time when guys wore the uniform correctly and proudly, with their hats, and no bakpacks and ear buds be-bopping through the terminal to the latest tune.
I digress.....
LOL
Cheers
#46
I realize that most of the last paragraph was partially tongue in cheek, but...
I was an FO at EGL before ENY was even a gleam in Dan Garton’s eye.
I was hired at 1450hrs
No one had a GoPro, but many of my CAs had me taxiing in with pedals from 27R so they could pack up their sh*t and bolt the second the door opened.
My IOE CA as a NH met me in the terminal wearing tennis shoes and a backpack
The last three weeks I don’t think there has been a single MEL on any plane I’ve flown. That’s probably because half are parked in ABI and the other half fly two legs then terminate for the day...
Your memory might be a little affected by nostalgia
I was an FO at EGL before ENY was even a gleam in Dan Garton’s eye.
I was hired at 1450hrs
No one had a GoPro, but many of my CAs had me taxiing in with pedals from 27R so they could pack up their sh*t and bolt the second the door opened.
My IOE CA as a NH met me in the terminal wearing tennis shoes and a backpack
The last three weeks I don’t think there has been a single MEL on any plane I’ve flown. That’s probably because half are parked in ABI and the other half fly two legs then terminate for the day...
Your memory might be a little affected by nostalgia

#47
No, but I predicted you'd still claim to have a Military experience based upon your acting experience at playing Civil War reenactments..... which you later changed to claiming to have a Military background.
Nothing to predict here. The USAir management style was well known. It was culture shock for those at AMR who actually gave a crap about the product.
Nothing to predict here. The USAir management style was well known. It was culture shock for those at AMR who actually gave a crap about the product.
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Not always the sole factor. For AA, it has always been a control issue, product/brand protection. Since the merger/bankruptcy cost factor has become more important to them then control & branding.
If you remember, prior to the bankruptcy merger, non owned feed providers were called American Connection. Only owned carriers were American Eagle. That was when the control and branding were more important.... back when having a top line global product was important, not trying to beat the LCC's at their own game.
People who were at Eagle before it was Envoy remember a day when the weren't MEL's all over the place, when something broke, it got fixed by the next day, two at most. A time when Eagle wings were hard to earn, not show up with 1450 hrs and fog a mirror. A time when a low time new hire was well over 3000TT if not much more. A time when the FO didn't immediately try to turn his cell phone on right after clearing the runway (after checking his GoPro of course). A time when guys wore the uniform correctly and proudly, with their hats, and no bakpacks and ear buds be-bopping through the terminal to the latest tune.
I digress.....
LOL
Cheers
If you remember, prior to the bankruptcy merger, non owned feed providers were called American Connection. Only owned carriers were American Eagle. That was when the control and branding were more important.... back when having a top line global product was important, not trying to beat the LCC's at their own game.
People who were at Eagle before it was Envoy remember a day when the weren't MEL's all over the place, when something broke, it got fixed by the next day, two at most. A time when Eagle wings were hard to earn, not show up with 1450 hrs and fog a mirror. A time when a low time new hire was well over 3000TT if not much more. A time when the FO didn't immediately try to turn his cell phone on right after clearing the runway (after checking his GoPro of course). A time when guys wore the uniform correctly and proudly, with their hats, and no bakpacks and ear buds be-bopping through the terminal to the latest tune.
I digress.....
LOL
Cheers
I get your points but you can’t broad brush everything.
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No, but I predicted you'd still claim to have a Military experience based upon your acting experience at playing Civil War reenactments..... which you later changed to claiming to have a Military background.
Nothing to predict here. The USAir management style was well known. It was culture shock for those at AMR who actually gave a crap about the product.
Nothing to predict here. The USAir management style was well known. It was culture shock for those at AMR who actually gave a crap about the product.
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