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04-13-2020, 06:33 AM
#61
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Originally Posted by buddies8
To the thkooj, how many pilots does aa need for 600 airplane fleet which is what aa will be for a long time after the end of covid19. Even after retirements aa will not be hiring for a long time to come. You should get ready for furlough.
7800 using the post rule 117 standard of 13 pilots per hull. AA also has 49 MGT pilots, 1 VPFLT, and 31 Base CP, so add about 81ish there that don't fly, it fluctuates. Just add an extra 100 to cover all that stuff.
AA also has 496 Check Airman, 212 CRM guys, 650 MDSB and 13 still in Tulsa....
Current pilot breakup is
BOS 272
CLT 1492
DCA 642
LAX 2018
LGA 1485
MIA 2447
NHB 71
ORD 1056
PHL 1574
PHX 723
TUL 13
pre coronavirus passengers per base was:
DFW gets the most traffic at 23%; DCA the lowest at 3%, but only because LGA and JFK combined turn 5%. CLT gets 18%, MIA at 13%, ORD 12%, PHL 9%, LAX 7%, PHX 6%....
In order of departures per year it was:
DFW 284k
CLT 231k
ORD 165k
PHL 156k
MIA 117k
PHX 100k
DCA 84k
LAX 66k
LGA 54k
JFK 35k
Yes, I have the actual complete number, I just rounded down... except one I rounded up.
There's the numbers kids....
I'm sure the Kooj will be here shortly to claim it's a lie.....
Last edited by Cujo665; 04-13-2020 at 06:54 AM.
04-13-2020, 07:27 AM
#62
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Originally Posted by Cujo665
7800 using the post rule 117 standard of 13 pilots per hull. AA also has 49 MGT pilots, 1 VPFLT, and 31 Base CP, so add about 81ish there that don't fly, it fluctuates. Just add an extra 100 to cover all that stuff.
AA also has 496 Check Airman, 212 CRM guys, 650 MDSB and 13 still in Tulsa....
Current pilot breakup is
BOS 272
CLT 1492
DCA 642
LAX 2018
LGA 1485
MIA 2447
NHB 71
ORD 1056
PHL 1574
PHX 723
TUL 13
pre coronavirus passengers per base was:
DFW gets the most traffic at 23%; DCA the lowest at 3%, but only because LGA and JFK combined turn 5%. CLT gets 18%, MIA at 13%, ORD 12%, PHL 9%, LAX 7%, PHX 6%....
In order of departures per year it was:
DFW 284k
CLT 231k
ORD 165k
PHL 156k
MIA 117k
PHX 100k
DCA 84k
LAX 66k
LGA 54k
JFK 35k
Yes, I have the actual complete number, I just rounded down... except one I rounded up.
There's the numbers kids....
I'm sure the Kooj will be here shortly to claim it's a lie.....
AA also has 496 Check Airman, 212 CRM guys, 650 MDSB and 13 still in Tulsa....
Current pilot breakup is
BOS 272
CLT 1492
DCA 642
LAX 2018
LGA 1485
MIA 2447
NHB 71
ORD 1056
PHL 1574
PHX 723
TUL 13
pre coronavirus passengers per base was:
DFW gets the most traffic at 23%; DCA the lowest at 3%, but only because LGA and JFK combined turn 5%. CLT gets 18%, MIA at 13%, ORD 12%, PHL 9%, LAX 7%, PHX 6%....
In order of departures per year it was:
DFW 284k
CLT 231k
ORD 165k
PHL 156k
MIA 117k
PHX 100k
DCA 84k
LAX 66k
LGA 54k
JFK 35k
Yes, I have the actual complete number, I just rounded down... except one I rounded up.
There's the numbers kids....
I'm sure the Kooj will be here shortly to claim it's a lie.....
04-13-2020, 07:33 AM
#63
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Originally Posted by Cyio
This is great info but how does it now correlate to post pandemic? I am still working on second coffee so may be missing something glaringly obvious �
04-14-2020, 04:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Cujo665
7800 using the post rule 117 standard of 13 pilots per hull. AA also has 49 MGT pilots, 1 VPFLT, and 31 Base CP, so add about 81ish there that don't fly, it fluctuates. Just add an extra 100 to cover all that stuff.
AA also has 496 Check Airman, 212 CRM guys, 650 MDSB and 13 still in Tulsa....
Current pilot breakup is
BOS 272
CLT 1492
DCA 642
LAX 2018
LGA 1485
MIA 2447
NHB 71
ORD 1056
PHL 1574
PHX 723
TUL 13
pre coronavirus passengers per base was:
DFW gets the most traffic at 23%; DCA the lowest at 3%, but only because LGA and JFK combined turn 5%. CLT gets 18%, MIA at 13%, ORD 12%, PHL 9%, LAX 7%, PHX 6%....
In order of departures per year it was:
DFW 284k
CLT 231k
ORD 165k
PHL 156k
MIA 117k
PHX 100k
DCA 84k
LAX 66k
LGA 54k
JFK 35k
Yes, I have the actual complete number, I just rounded down... except one I rounded up.
There's the numbers kids....
I'm sure the Kooj will be here shortly to claim it's a lie.....
AA also has 496 Check Airman, 212 CRM guys, 650 MDSB and 13 still in Tulsa....
Current pilot breakup is
BOS 272
CLT 1492
DCA 642
LAX 2018
LGA 1485
MIA 2447
NHB 71
ORD 1056
PHL 1574
PHX 723
TUL 13
pre coronavirus passengers per base was:
DFW gets the most traffic at 23%; DCA the lowest at 3%, but only because LGA and JFK combined turn 5%. CLT gets 18%, MIA at 13%, ORD 12%, PHL 9%, LAX 7%, PHX 6%....
In order of departures per year it was:
DFW 284k
CLT 231k
ORD 165k
PHL 156k
MIA 117k
PHX 100k
DCA 84k
LAX 66k
LGA 54k
JFK 35k
Yes, I have the actual complete number, I just rounded down... except one I rounded up.
There's the numbers kids....
I'm sure the Kooj will be here shortly to claim it's a lie.....
Now, that said, your pilot totals per base are close and your departures are as well. That's information that any Tom, Dick or Harry can come up with and post here. However, you lost me at 600 plane fleet post COVID. I can't stop guffawing. You just can't take it that you are no longer in the know or right in the circle of information like I am now. Of course along with the fact that you don't work at American Airlines.
Your prediction here is TOTALLY FALSE. It's nothing more than you pulling a number out of your rear end and slapping it on here. Yes, of course there is a big draw down at present because of the virus. That doesn't indicate a 600 plane fleet going forward as we recover. How do I know? Well, I'm in on meetings that have covered some of the numbers most of which I can't share but wouldn't be comfortable doing even if I could....AT THIS MOMENT. Why don't you explain where you got your numbers? Oh wait, that's right. YOU CAN'T because you don't have any real information.
Case closed.
04-14-2020, 04:26 AM
#65
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Posts: 335
Originally Posted by THKooj
#1. YOU DON'T EVEN WORK HERE.
Now, that said, your pilot totals per base are close and your departures are as well. That's information that any Tom, Dick or Harry can come up with and post here. However, you lost me at 600 plane fleet post COVID. I can't stop guffawing. You just can't take it that you are no longer in the know or right in the circle of information like I am now. Of course along with the fact that you don't work at American Airlines.
Your prediction here is TOTALLY FALSE. It's nothing more than you pulling a number out of your rear end and slapping it on here. Yes, of course there is a big draw down at present because of the virus. That doesn't indicate a 600 plane fleet going forward as we recover. How do I know? Well, I'm in on meetings that have covered some of the numbers most of which I can't share but wouldn't be comfortable doing even if I could....AT THIS MOMENT. Why don't you explain where you got your numbers? Oh wait, that's right. YOU CAN'T because you don't have any real information.
Case closed.
Now, that said, your pilot totals per base are close and your departures are as well. That's information that any Tom, Dick or Harry can come up with and post here. However, you lost me at 600 plane fleet post COVID. I can't stop guffawing. You just can't take it that you are no longer in the know or right in the circle of information like I am now. Of course along with the fact that you don't work at American Airlines.
Your prediction here is TOTALLY FALSE. It's nothing more than you pulling a number out of your rear end and slapping it on here. Yes, of course there is a big draw down at present because of the virus. That doesn't indicate a 600 plane fleet going forward as we recover. How do I know? Well, I'm in on meetings that have covered some of the numbers most of which I can't share but wouldn't be comfortable doing even if I could....AT THIS MOMENT. Why don't you explain where you got your numbers? Oh wait, that's right. YOU CAN'T because you don't have any real information.
Case closed.
THE FLOW WILL NOT STOP.
your predictions are also, TOTALLY FALSE.
04-14-2020, 04:38 AM
#66
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Posts: 551
Originally Posted by THKooj
#1. YOU DON'T EVEN WORK HERE.
Now, that said, your pilot totals per base are close and your departures are as well. That's information that any Tom, Dick or Harry can come up with and post here. However, you lost me at 600 plane fleet post COVID. I can't stop guffawing. You just can't take it that you are no longer in the know or right in the circle of information like I am now. Of course along with the fact that you don't work at American Airlines.
Your prediction here is TOTALLY FALSE. It's nothing more than you pulling a number out of your rear end and slapping it on here. Yes, of course there is a big draw down at present because of the virus. That doesn't indicate a 600 plane fleet going forward as we recover. How do I know? Well, I'm in on meetings that have covered some of the numbers most of which I can't share but wouldn't be comfortable doing even if I could....AT THIS MOMENT. Why don't you explain where you got your numbers? Oh wait, that's right. YOU CAN'T because you don't have any real information.
Case closed.
Now, that said, your pilot totals per base are close and your departures are as well. That's information that any Tom, Dick or Harry can come up with and post here. However, you lost me at 600 plane fleet post COVID. I can't stop guffawing. You just can't take it that you are no longer in the know or right in the circle of information like I am now. Of course along with the fact that you don't work at American Airlines.
Your prediction here is TOTALLY FALSE. It's nothing more than you pulling a number out of your rear end and slapping it on here. Yes, of course there is a big draw down at present because of the virus. That doesn't indicate a 600 plane fleet going forward as we recover. How do I know? Well, I'm in on meetings that have covered some of the numbers most of which I can't share but wouldn't be comfortable doing even if I could....AT THIS MOMENT. Why don't you explain where you got your numbers? Oh wait, that's right. YOU CAN'T because you don't have any real information.
Case closed.
Someone else asked about a 600 airplane fleet. That’s where the number came from.
I’m confused. I thought you don’t work here either. This is an ENY board, I thought you claimed you flowed to AA?
04-14-2020, 05:02 AM
#67
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Posts: 270
Originally Posted by Lahey
remember this prediction?
THE FLOW WILL NOT STOP.
your predictions are also, TOTALLY FALSE.
THE FLOW WILL NOT STOP.
your predictions are also, TOTALLY FALSE.
04-14-2020, 05:03 AM
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Posts: 270
Originally Posted by But seriously
Someone else asked about a 600 airplane fleet. That’s where the number came from.
I’m confused. I thought you don’t work here either. This is an ENY board, I thought you claimed you flowed to AA?
I’m confused. I thought you don’t work here either. This is an ENY board, I thought you claimed you flowed to AA?
04-14-2020, 05:12 AM
#69
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Originally Posted by THKooj
Wrong. This is akin to a natural disaster or force of nature. You can't PREDICT that. AA has a temp freeze on hiring so during that time and that time alone, the flow is paused. Simple as that.
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