Oh, it's true. Just look at everything you've gotten until now. It was always - always - when hiring and retention weren't enough. If there are a steady stream of enough coming in the door, they negotiate on nothing. Didn't one of the recent emails from the union pre pandemic actually state the company has no interest in talking.... that happens EVERY time they have what they need, regardless of what you need.

 

This is true and something we have been trumpeting for years now. Once the company has staffing, it’s pretty much game over for any meaningful negotiations.

 

I seriously fail to understand why you guys are constantly on here blathering about the union this, union that, if they company does this and that. It's such a fruitless argument and waste of time. Envoy has and will have more than enough recruits coming in the door.......always. Why? Because they want to work for American Airlines. Yep, just like you even if you won't admit it. To add icing on the cake, the pipeline program has opened the door to THE most qualified recruits Envoy has EVER seen. And yes, that includes the "old" days of American Eagle. No longer are they hiring Virgil who spent the last 6 years flying packages around Texas in some Baron. Today's recruits are the most ready for the 121 cockpit from the first day they set foot on property. Envoy is far superior in many ways to the "old" American Eagle but IMO only, the pipeline program truly sets them apart.

 

Sorry Kooj, but Eagle/Envoy flow peaked years ago at almost 60% of all AA new hires, and then it was 50% of all AA new hire slots right up until the L10-11's and the 2014 TA.

Now, all three WO's combined send a whopping 35% of all AA new hires at the last tabulation pre-pandemic.

The flow is nothing compared to what it used to be.... it's more of a trickle than a flow now. That's why they have guys like you on social media trying to sell the idea of what used to be, instead of what actually is.

 

Why do you feel the need to come on here and blather on about how great things are? I dont know, maybe because this is a forum and open for discussion, regardless if we all agree or not. The pilots coming today are not that experienced, they are nothing more than glorified flight instructors with a bachelors degree. How does that make them more competent than someone that has been flying in an operational setting, dealing with weather, maintenance, schedules, deadlines and all the other things hauling packages around Texas entails? I am not knocking the pipeline pilots, just not giving them a free pass to excellence like you are.

It has become a trope around here, you post some complete over the top nonsense and myself, Cujo and some others discredit it. If you dont like it, stop posting your nonsense. I will admit that when I started I wanted to work for AA, but that has long since changed. I am now waiting for training centers to reopen and other airlines to start hiring again, that or my non-aviation opportunity to come up.

 

He's proof of what was posted above, as long as they are staffed, you get nothing in your contract. Hence why he's here, making sure you're staffed with young suckers.

 

I come on here to post more of a real picture of what's happening out there. If we left it up to yourself and a handful of others on this forum for information, we would be sorely lacking in true statements. I think that you are aware of Cujo's history and that he doesn't even work here. Honestly, IMO, it's just bitterness that keeps him coming back around to take any swipe he can against Envoy/AA as there's nothing more than he wanted than to be an AA pilot. Why is it that you don't want to work for American Airlines anymore? It seems that there are a few of you who let the negative Nancy's here poison your mind and way of thinking. I'm genuinely curious.

 

Sorry, Jack. YOU don’t work here. Unless you still are on stoolie retainer.

Those of us who DO work at the ‘Voy and continue to get “Envoyed” on a regular basis will continue to debunk you myths.

You regularly ignore pointed questions and just change threads to spew your falsehoods.

Tell us about that “military experience”. It will lend credence to all your other falsehoods.

 

Call of Duty - Campaign Mode on Xbox One X

 

Fixed it for you.