AA/ENV to suspend MIA operations May 7
05-05-2020 | 05:51 AM
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There have been plenty of opportunities to make a single carrier petition, either by Envoy to AA or all 3 WOs to AA. My best guess as to why it hasn't happened is because ALPA would lose 5,000 members to APA. It would be the best thing to happen to the industry in forever, but ALPA doesn't seem to be going for it.
05-05-2020 | 08:47 AM
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Is that what you tell your Gf or spouse and family too? They must be so confused. They see all the American logos on you but don’t see the big house and the Porsche yet. gonna be a long 10 years.
05-05-2020 | 04:27 PM
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Thekhooj is at AA now, but most likely soon to get a dose of reality come Oct.
05-06-2020 | 04:57 AM
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I have no idea why it’s relevant to this discussion but the WO operations are not AA pilots. Anyone at either company that thinks otherwise is wrong. American Holdings put in place a preferential hiring program to staff the WO. The program has nothing to do with staffing AA and everything to do with keeping the trenches full of C scale pilots.
This reality does have a place in the flow back discussion however...
It would also be beneficial for the young blood hired during the post 2010 boom to look at how well WO operations faired during previous downturns. I see lots of posts about how WO pilots expect there to be deep cuts at non WO carriers and hope it will work out that WO cuts will be less drastic. I think they have that 180 out. I see the opposite. In fact I’ll be very surprised if there are still four carriers at American holdings by the end of next summer.
This reality does have a place in the flow back discussion however...
It would also be beneficial for the young blood hired during the post 2010 boom to look at how well WO operations faired during previous downturns. I see lots of posts about how WO pilots expect there to be deep cuts at non WO carriers and hope it will work out that WO cuts will be less drastic. I think they have that 180 out. I see the opposite. In fact I’ll be very surprised if there are still four carriers at American holdings by the end of next summer.
05-06-2020 | 05:18 AM
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I have no idea why it’s relevant to this discussion but the WO operations are not AA pilots. Anyone at either company that thinks otherwise is wrong. American Holdings put in place a preferential hiring program to staff the WO. The program has nothing to do with staffing AA and everything to do with keeping the trenches full of C scale pilots.
This reality does have a place in the flow back discussion however...
It would also be beneficial for the young blood hired during the post 2010 boom to look at how well WO operations faired during previous downturns. I see lots of posts about how WO pilots expect there to be deep cuts at non WO carriers and hope it will work out that WO cuts will be less drastic. I think they have that 180 out. I see the opposite. In fact I’ll be very surprised if there are still four carriers at American holdings by the end of next summer.
This reality does have a place in the flow back discussion however...
It would also be beneficial for the young blood hired during the post 2010 boom to look at how well WO operations faired during previous downturns. I see lots of posts about how WO pilots expect there to be deep cuts at non WO carriers and hope it will work out that WO cuts will be less drastic. I think they have that 180 out. I see the opposite. In fact I’ll be very surprised if there are still four carriers at American holdings by the end of next summer.
05-06-2020 | 05:34 AM
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Just how I feel about it looking around now and thinking back to past slow downs. It will sure be an interesting time ahead of us all. Hopefully I’m very wrong.
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