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Old 05-06-2020 | 06:48 AM
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What’s the flow at? Indefinite. And. Increasing.

Flow requires AA hiring.
Dude. It’s a temporary pause. Prob not 10 years.
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Old 05-06-2020 | 07:03 AM
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Originally Posted by pangolin
Dude. It’s a temporary pause. Prob not 10 years.
Hmmmmm. While I think it will start back up again I really think this has added a few years to it. With the most recent flow being at 7 years, a ten year flow for a recent hire could be well above 10 years. Considering a recent new hire was already at 9 years, 10+ is realistic.
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Old 05-06-2020 | 07:05 AM
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Originally Posted by pangolin
Dude. It’s a temporary pause. Prob not 10 years.
If flow is not currently happening, with no definite return date, it is infinitely paused. And every day goes by is an increase.
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Old 05-06-2020 | 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Cyio
Hmmmmm. While I think it will start back up again I really think this has added a few years to it. With the most recent flow being at 7 years, a ten year flow for a recent hire could be well above 10 years. Considering a recent new hire was already at 9 years, 10+ is realistic.
I meant the pause in flow was temporary. Flow will resume before 10 years. What it’ll be we don’t know.
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Old 05-06-2020 | 08:45 AM
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My gut feeling is there will be only one AA WO when the dust settles. I don’t think it will be Piedmont. Leaning towards PSA and Piedmont both going away and there will not be any merger. Just shut downs and asset sales.

Just how I feel about it looking around now and thinking back to past slow downs. It will sure be an interesting time ahead of us all. Hopefully I’m very wrong.
My personal thought for a long time is that PSA and Piedmont will end up combined. Several reasons. Granted, I don’t know anything about the specifics, but they were both US Air cultured feed. They already share some common mx locations. But the big reason is relative size. I think AAG will want to keep the two WOs to play the whipsaw and PSA and Piedmont together are closer in size to the ‘Voy than than any other combination being equally sized.

Of course, with flying at only 10%, it would be very easy for AAG to cut ANY of its feed to what they want. There is already a big axe poised to fall. They just have to decide where to or if they put a tourniquet to stop the bleeding when they start hacking. But I do believe the blood and pain are yet to come.
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Old 05-06-2020 | 11:54 AM
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I think Envoy gets shut down because everyone hates you

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Old 05-06-2020 | 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by pangolin
Dude. It’s a temporary pause. Prob not 10 years.
Correct. It's a temporary pause and it is NOT 10 years. I've said before that this could slow the flow by a few months beyond what you were originally planned for but most likely, very, very little change.
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Old 05-06-2020 | 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by THKooj
Correct. It's a temporary pause and it is NOT 10 years. I've said before that this could slow the flow by a few months beyond what you were originally planned for but most likely, very, very little change.
So are these Saturn months or Venus months?

Trying to figure out which planet you’re from.
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Old 05-06-2020 | 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by THKooj
Correct. It's a temporary pause and it is NOT 10 years. I've said before that this could slow the flow by a few months beyond what you were originally planned for but most likely, very, very little change.
So when AA furloughs you in October, the flow keeps moving anyway?
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Old 05-06-2020 | 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by THKooj
Correct. It's a temporary pause and it is NOT 10 years. I've said before that this could slow the flow by a few months beyond what you were originally planned for but most likely, very, very little change.
how does that happen? If AA doesn’t hire for a year how does that not add, at the minimum, at least one year to a projected flow time?
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