View Poll Results: What % of Envoy Pilots Get Furloughed?
0%
22
10.38%
1-10%
32
15.09%
11-20%
70
33.02%
21-30%
28
13.21%
31-40%
15
7.08%
> 40%
45
21.23%
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Envoy Furlough Estimates
01-30-2021, 08:55 AM
#123
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Joined APC: Aug 2013
Position: BE20/BE02 Left Seat
Posts: 166
Dont get me wrong. Aviation will be around. The world needs cargo. But in my opinion the demand for pilots wont return like it was before. Businesses understand they can work from home. And by the time they figure things out, investors want automated planes
01-30-2021, 10:43 AM
#124
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Joined APC: Feb 2019
Posts: 92
Originally Posted by teamflyer
And by the time they figure things out, investors want automated planes
Who actually knows how long it’ll be but I believe the MAX issues have definitely put a damper on the idea of passenger aircraft relying on automation/remote.
01-30-2021, 11:52 AM
#125
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Joined APC: Jan 2021
Posts: 22
Originally Posted by teamflyer
Dont get me wrong. Aviation will be around. The world needs cargo. But in my opinion the demand for pilots wont return like it was before. Businesses understand they can work from home. And by the time they figure things out, investors want automated planes
I hear a lot of people saying that business travel won’t return. It will. Zoom was there before Covid. Those who were road warriors before are itching to resume f2f client meetings. Zoom is a stopgap. Many corporations are holding back from letting them resume travel until vaccinations are wide spread. The only big change that will likely stick to some degree is allowing workers to telecommute on a more permanent basis.
01-30-2021, 12:51 PM
#126
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Joined APC: Nov 2015
Position: CA
Posts: 83
Originally Posted by aircraft callin
I hear a lot of people saying that business travel won’t return. It will. Zoom was there before Covid. Those who were road warriors before are itching to resume f2f client meetings. Zoom is a stopgap. Many corporations are holding back from letting them resume travel until vaccinations are wide spread. The only big change that will likely stick to some degree is allowing workers to telecommute on a more permanent basis.
01-30-2021, 03:55 PM
#127
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Joined APC: Oct 2018
Posts: 30
Originally Posted by teamflyer
Dont get me wrong. Aviation will be around. The world needs cargo. But in my opinion the demand for pilots wont return like it was before. Businesses understand they can work from home. And by the time they figure things out, investors want automated planes
01-30-2021, 05:25 PM
#128
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2013
Position: BE20/BE02 Left Seat
Posts: 166
Okay, we can look at it postively. But all this assumes corona goes away.... only time will tell, but unless numbers drastically start changing, dont get your hopes up.... this downturn isnt like the others, we have to social distance for a reason. People are not gonna play golf when the virus keeps mutating
01-30-2021, 05:39 PM
#129
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Joined APC: Jan 2021
Posts: 150
Originally Posted by teamflyer
Okay, we can look at it postively. But all this assumes corona goes away.... only time will tell, but unless numbers drastically start changing, dont get your hopes up.... this downturn isnt like the others, we have to social distance for a reason. People are not gonna play golf when the virus keeps mutating
Last edited by CptnDave; 01-30-2021 at 05:53 PM.
01-30-2021, 05:44 PM
#130
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Joined APC: Jan 2021
Posts: 150
Originally Posted by coodrough568
I see history repeating itself here, how soon we all forget. “GoToMeeting”, ever heard of that one? It came out in 2004, in the wake of 9/11. Businesses swore they’d never put employees back on a scary plane. By the time GoToMeeting really got it’s wheels spinning, most public perception of planes being unsafe was already gone. We are social animals. No way everyone sits back and FaceTime‘s forever. If we run competitor businesses, and I find out you’re only Zoom calling, I’d go face to face with your clients and have lunch or go golf. Guarantee I’d take the business. Give it time, people will be back.
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