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ClappedOut145 11-13-2020 03:10 AM


Originally Posted by pangolin (Post 3158029)
YV. Out of DFW there’s about 20 Dfw different destinations. I have a pretty good memory about who rides my jump seat.

Which is why I wear funny disguises when I jumpseat. I don’t need the Mesa Stasi keeping a file on me.

CLE to IAH 11-13-2020 09:47 AM


Originally Posted by pangolin (Post 3158029)
YV. Out of DFW there’s about 20 Dfw different destinations. I have a pretty good memory about who rides my jump seat.


why not just say “Mesa”?

highfarfast 11-13-2020 10:31 AM


Originally Posted by CLE to IAH (Post 3158346)
why not just say “Mesa”?

It’s too hard to spell out.

NoValueAviator 11-13-2020 10:58 AM

You Mesa guys gotta chill with the jumpseat. You ask nice you get, that's supposed to be the default unless someone decides to start a JS war.

Varsity 11-13-2020 03:52 PM

I'm not a DFW guy, but I never understood why Envoy DFW pilots go so crazy over Mesa. The ORD/LGA/MIA pilots have no idea what the beef is about.

highfarfast 11-13-2020 04:08 PM


Originally Posted by Varsity (Post 3158518)
I'm not a DFW guy, but I never understood why Envoy DFW pilots go so crazy over Mesa. The ORD/LGA/MIA pilots have no idea what the beef is about.

I dont think there s any real beef. They are just a convenient target for the butt of all jokes.

As far as I can tell, the only real beef is with PSA. But that may have changed since they stood their ground this time.

badflaps 11-13-2020 04:47 PM


Originally Posted by Av8rPHX (Post 3156445)
If you’re checking in as a nonrev,you might as well tell them what aircraft you’re typed in too...”put me in coach,I’m ready to go!”


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I said that once, and never again. I got seat 31B with chairs open in first.....Never, never say coach to an agent.

Urban achiever 11-13-2020 04:50 PM

The only stigma I’ve ever heard of Mesa is that they’re dirt cheap. Anytime you hear an air start cart it’s called the “Mesa mating call”.

as for the crews, they’ve been nothing but excellent in my limited experience.

3400 11-15-2020 08:44 PM


Originally Posted by highfarfast (Post 3158525)
I dont think there s any real beef. They are just a convenient target for the butt of all jokes.

As far as I can tell, the only real beef is with PSA. But that may have changed since they stood their ground this time.

I think most of the PSA qualms are behind us.

Cyio 11-16-2020 03:09 AM


Originally Posted by 3400 (Post 3159413)
I think most of the PSA qualms are behind us.

I would tend to agree. The ones that did the naughty back in the day are either gone or overshadowed by all the new hires since then and they stood strong on this last issue, so all good in my book.


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