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Old 03-02-2021 | 05:42 AM
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Correct. The answer is to end the reciprocal like we did with United when United decided to change an agreement. Jumpseat not available.
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Old 03-02-2021 | 06:12 AM
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Good god, what did I miss now? I still feel in the dark about the whole skywest/republic/envoy jump seat issues as I have yet to see it happen. This must be an easy coast thing.
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Old 03-02-2021 | 06:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Ciceda
So Envoy never attempted to get EOW certified before a few months ago? Do you stand by that statement?


AA put the kabash on the earlier plans. FAA was ready to approve.
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Old 03-02-2021 | 06:27 AM
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Originally Posted by FltCtrlNoDsptch
I’ll gladly give a Spirit pilot the jumpseat over an Envoy pilot any day, and I’ll smile ear-to-ear while doing it.
You seem like a real cool guy to fly with
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Old 03-02-2021 | 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Dougweiser
You seem like a real cool guy to fly with
This person clearly has a chip on their shoulder and is rather aggressive in their posts. Not sure what the average Envoy pilot has done to deserve the attitude this guy has with us, but they do nonetheless.
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Old 03-02-2021 | 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Cyio
This person clearly has a chip on their shoulder and is rather aggressive in their posts. Not sure what the average Envoy pilot has done to deserve the attitude this guy has with us, but they do nonetheless.
From what I understand it is not Envoy but American as a whole. There are a lot of displaced Miami pilots at Republic who now have to commute to LGA and other bases on always full American flights. Now they are being bumped out of the jumpseat by offline pilots and it is not sitting too well with them, especially when the same doesn't happen to American or AAG pilots on Republic. So as a result this Miami base closure is bringing a new push to to make the agreement reciprocal.

I for one think AA, UA, and DL pilots should get priority over the JS over any offline pilot on Republic flights no matter the code share and I think they are working on a way to make that happen. But the same needs to be reciprocated.

Before anybody gets all worked up, word is that active discussion has started back up (stopped when covid hit) and there has been some progress made on both sides. But some RPA pilots are a little bitter that American closed their Miami base and to add insult to injury can now be bumped off their new commute by an offline.
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Old 03-02-2021 | 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by greatmovieistar
From what I understand it is not Envoy but American as a whole. There are a lot of displaced Miami pilots at Republic who now have to commute to LGA and other bases on always full American flights. Now they are being bumped out of the jumpseat by offline pilots and it is not sitting too well with them, especially when the same doesn't happen to American or AAG pilots on Republic. So as a result this Miami base closure is bringing a new push to to make the agreement reciprocal.

I for one think AA, UA, and DL pilots should get priority over the JS over any offline pilot on Republic flights no matter the code share and I think they are working on a way to make that happen. But the same needs to be reciprocated.

Before anybody gets all worked up, word is that active discussion has started back up (stopped when covid hit) and there has been some progress made on both sides. But some RPA pilots are a little bitter that American closed their Miami base and to add insult to injury can now be bumped off their new commute by an offline.
Never join an airline for a specific base. Everyone knows that. They’re quick to forget when all the MIA Eagle guys were bumped out of there when AA dispersed the flying to republic.
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Old 03-02-2021 | 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by greatmovieistar
From what I understand it is not Envoy but American as a whole. There are a lot of displaced Miami pilots at Republic who now have to commute to LGA and other bases on always full American flights. Now they are being bumped out of the jumpseat by offline pilots and it is not sitting too well with them, especially when the same doesn't happen to American or AAG pilots on Republic. So as a result this Miami base closure is bringing a new push to to make the agreement reciprocal.

I for one think AA, UA, and DL pilots should get priority over the JS over any offline pilot on Republic flights no matter the code share and I think they are working on a way to make that happen. But the same needs to be reciprocated.

Before anybody gets all worked up, word is that active discussion has started back up (stopped when covid hit) and there has been some progress made on both sides. But some RPA pilots are a little bitter that American closed their Miami base and to add insult to injury can now be bumped off their new commute by an offline.

How would any of this actually work though? American, Delta, and United pilots all on time of check in regardless of which company the flight is operating for? So a Delta pilot checks in before an American pilot on an eagle flight and she/he gets the Jumpseat?
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Old 03-02-2021 | 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by greatmovieistar
From what I understand it is not Envoy but American as a whole. There are a lot of displaced Miami pilots at Republic who now have to commute to LGA and other bases on always full American flights. Now they are being bumped out of the jumpseat by offline pilots and it is not sitting too well with them, especially when the same doesn't happen to American or AAG pilots on Republic. So as a result this Miami base closure is bringing a new push to to make the agreement reciprocal.

I for one think AA, UA, and DL pilots should get priority over the JS over any offline pilot on Republic flights no matter the code share and I think they are working on a way to make that happen. But the same needs to be reciprocated.

Before anybody gets all worked up, word is that active discussion has started back up (stopped when covid hit) and there has been some progress made on both sides. But some RPA pilots are a little bitter that American closed their Miami base and to add insult to injury can now be bumped off their new commute by an offline.
Remind those guys that Republic doesn’t have a say on where they fly, it’s the mainline partners that dictates where y’all Republic flies. So those guys can’t be bitter about American closing their base or losing American flying out of MIA as that flying belongs American. In the first place.
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Old 03-02-2021 | 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Swakid8
Remind those guys that Republic doesn’t have a say on where they fly, it’s the mainline partners that dictates where y’all Republic flies. So those guys can’t be bitter about American closing their base or losing American flying out of MIA as that flying belongs American. In the first place.
Okay? Not sure why you felt the need to bring that up. I guess that is why I said "American" caused the base to be shut down and not "Republic". Thanks for the hot tip though.
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