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GroundPointNine 12-31-2020 09:46 PM

Envoy 2021: A New Hope
 
Happy New Year all!

Let us start this thread off with a juicy one. A220’s confirmed at the end of 2022.

Captain Kirk 01-01-2021 05:53 AM

Yes Happy New Year to all and LAX base opening early third quarter. :D

ClappedOut145 01-01-2021 06:00 AM


Originally Posted by GroundPointNine (Post 3176725)
Happy New Year all!

Let us start this thread off with a juicy one. A220’s confirmed at the end of 2022.

At least pick something that doesn’t completely **** all over scope clause at AA.

GroundPointNine 01-01-2021 06:45 AM


Originally Posted by ClappedOut145 (Post 3176765)
At least pick something that doesn’t completely **** all over scope clause at AA.

76 lie flats, removing the CRJ-900 from the fleet, giving the 145’s to Mesa. Solved!

ClappedOut145 01-01-2021 08:36 AM


Originally Posted by GroundPointNine (Post 3176782)
76 lie flats, removing the CRJ-900 from the fleet, giving the 145’s to Mesa. Solved!

Not just seats. APA scope does not allow anything to be operated by someone else if it has an MTOW of 86,000 lbs. The A220 would have to be re-certified as a new variant like the CRJ 550 was.

Otterbox 01-01-2021 10:52 AM


Originally Posted by ClappedOut145 (Post 3176828)
Not just seats. APA scope does not allow anything to be operated by someone else if it has an MTOW of 86,000 lbs. The A220 would have to be re-certified as a new variant like the CRJ 550 was.

Unless it is in flying given to other airlines in the form of Joint Venture/ Code share...

Which is how JetBlue is getting Envoys NYC flying and an LAX base.

dera 01-01-2021 10:55 AM


Originally Posted by Otterbox (Post 3176866)
Unless it is in flying given to other airlines in the form of Joint Venture/ Code share...

They would never allow that.

Oh wait. They just did.

ClappedOut145 01-01-2021 12:36 PM


Originally Posted by Otterbox (Post 3176866)
Unless it is in flying given to other airlines in the form of Joint Venture/ Code share...

Which is how JetBlue is getting Envoys NYC flying and an LAX base.

It’s not flown as AA though with AA colors. JV’s are the new fad. Look at SkyTeam. They are doing them like crazy.

Cujo665 01-02-2021 03:48 PM

Wouldn’t it be interesting for Pedro to take a page from Mesa and do it right instead of halfassed

Put 75 & 76 cargo Ops into operation. Does scope even cover ACMI type operations? Haven’t looked at the APA CBA lately but I Doubt it, or Mesa wouldn’t be running 737’s....

single type rating, training program and pilot group for both narrow & widebody cargo.

the next greatest flow... get hired in an RJ, 1 year as FO, 2 years as CA, then go to 757/767 Cargo for 3 more years, then flow to AA....


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