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Old 03-01-2021 | 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by FltCtrlNoDsptch
Envoy has a pretty awful reputation, so I guess pot meet kettle?

Also, I’ve never heard a single person call any regional mainline except for SkyWest. So either 1) you’re making **** up, or 2) the LGA Instagram pilots are drinking a different recipe of Kool Aid. Both seem plausible.

Skywest is mainline.

They own their own airplanes.
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Old 03-01-2021 | 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Dougweiser
And just make sure you list as aac for the cabin and d7 for the js. Don’t be like Skywest and list as aac and expect the js when the flight ends up being full.
D6 was what you meant. D7 is an offline flight attendant jumpseater.
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Old 03-01-2021 | 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by FltCtrlNoDsptch
Show up for my jumpseat and you’ll get the same reciprocity. Make sure you check-in before OAL, because if not, it’s going to them.
Good to know you are willingly violating the contract which your company signed. There are over 20,000 AAG pilots vs 2,500 YX pilots. Your actions do not favor you and your fellow pilots.

Every envoy pilot should take heed of what this guy is saying. Make sure you email the union with any issues with any jumpseat denials. Be professional when they violate the signed agreement.
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Old 03-01-2021 | 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by FltCtrlNoDsptch
Show up for my jumpseat and you’ll get the same reciprocity. Make sure you check-in before OAL, because if not, it’s going to them.
Check-in before OAL? We don’t need to check in at republic if we’re sitting in the back, and just so you know, we’re always ahead of OAL pilots on Eagle flights. I’d recommend you to read the jumpseat rules before talking shi+ here, it sounds like you don’t know what you’re doing, dummy.
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Old 03-01-2021 | 05:32 PM
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Looks like life is back to normal when we are fighting about the jumpsseat.
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Old 03-01-2021 | 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Swakid8
Looks like life is back to normal when we are fighting about the jumpsseat.
Nobody has needed one until recently.
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Old 03-01-2021 | 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by aewhistleblower
Check-in before OAL? We don’t need to check in at republic if we’re sitting in the back, and just so you know, we’re always ahead of OAL pilots on Eagle flights. I’d recommend you to read the jumpseat rules before talking shi+ here, it sounds like you don’t know what you’re doing, dummy.
Last year they tried this same thing in MIA. They demanded that AAG pilots had to re-list as a D6UJ and started handing out papers to gate agents informing them of the new procedure that they had decided was being implemented. While I feel for them, there is no brand loyalty for YX pilots. They can fly a flight for any of the three carriers. You cannot fence them off. If you could, then maybe they could give them some sort of perk, but a YX pilot commuting on an ORD-EWR flight isn’t going there to benefit AA in that base so why should they be able to bump off a NK, B6, DL, etc. pilot? YX signed an agreement and they should honor it. Waking up to the gate in MIA and saying to a pilot trying to get home “yeah, I know this is an AA flight and you’re a D2, but because I don’t like the contract my company signed, I am going to let the Spirit guy have the jumpseat. Tell your management if you don’t like it,” won’t buy an ounce of sympathy from us. Ask me how I know. Starting a unilateral action is not going to end well for anyone. Ok
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Old 03-01-2021 | 08:32 PM
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Uhh, “mainline” is a SkyWest joke, even though it’s been transforming to “heavy”, it’s ours, we like it, please do usurp it for a weak forum fight.
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Old 03-02-2021 | 04:25 AM
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Originally Posted by ClappedOut145
Last year they tried this same thing in MIA. They demanded that AAG pilots had to re-list as a D6UJ and started handing out papers to gate agents informing them of the new procedure that they had decided was being implemented. While I feel for them, there is no brand loyalty for YX pilots. They can fly a flight for any of the three carriers. You cannot fence them off. If you could, then maybe they could give them some sort of perk, but a YX pilot commuting on an ORD-EWR flight isn’t going there to benefit AA in that base so why should they be able to bump off a NK, B6, DL, etc. pilot? YX signed an agreement and they should honor it. Waking up to the gate in MIA and saying to a pilot trying to get home “yeah, I know this is an AA flight and you’re a D2, but because I don’t like the contract my company signed, I am going to let the Spirit guy have the jumpseat. Tell your management if you don’t like it,” won’t buy an ounce of sympathy from us. Ask me how I know. Starting a unilateral action is not going to end well for anyone. Ok
I’ll gladly give a Spirit pilot the jumpseat over an Envoy pilot any day, and I’ll smile ear-to-ear while doing it.
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Old 03-02-2021 | 04:42 AM
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Originally Posted by FltCtrlNoDsptch
I’ll gladly give a Spirit pilot the jumpseat over an Envoy pilot any day, and I’ll smile ear-to-ear while doing it.
Not following written rules because you don’t like the way it makes you feel is not the flex you think it is, captain.
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