Envoy 2021: A New Hope
04-21-2021 | 09:41 AM
#632
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From: Whale FO
04-21-2021 | 09:44 AM
#633
In a land of unicorns
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From: Whale FO
I would highly doubt there are very many that this would affect. Great news they are hiring again and even better news about the flow starting, however there won’t be significant flow movement in the next 12 months. I would assume those that could have held the heavy and been under 12 months from flow transitioned long ago.
04-21-2021 | 09:50 AM
#634
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hey let's start a go fund me for them.
04-21-2021 | 10:50 AM
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Anyone within 100 numbers of flowing either took a calculated risk for a specific personal reason, or should have known better.
I don’t think we really have a good handle on what AA’s plans look like, so it’s a little hard to predict how quickly pilots will start moving over after the first month or two.
I don’t think we really have a good handle on what AA’s plans look like, so it’s a little hard to predict how quickly pilots will start moving over after the first month or two.
04-21-2021 | 12:06 PM
#636
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Long enough to know that people who have been here for the duration of their careers have seen much worse than me, and to want to try to make this place even the slightest bit better before my number is called to go to the great beyond.
04-21-2021 | 04:27 PM
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04-22-2021 | 01:06 AM
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This is how 95% of the pilot group feels. The collective unit who complains about flow are the ones who choose not to.
With that said, it’s a rock and a hard place here for our respected senior pilots. It’s tough to go both ways. Either you flow more for less, or take less for more flow. Hence, some think the flow is a carrot for less QOL, and some think the flow is worth more than temporary QOL.
With that said, the flow is not useless and I am happy to have one even with an accredited 4 year degree with a clean record. My aspiration is to beat the flow. If I am missing a diversity requirement or something else pops up that I don’t know about, I can at least move on. But that won’t stop me from networking and applying to the majors, including American!
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With that said, it’s a rock and a hard place here for our respected senior pilots. It’s tough to go both ways. Either you flow more for less, or take less for more flow. Hence, some think the flow is a carrot for less QOL, and some think the flow is worth more than temporary QOL.
With that said, the flow is not useless and I am happy to have one even with an accredited 4 year degree with a clean record. My aspiration is to beat the flow. If I am missing a diversity requirement or something else pops up that I don’t know about, I can at least move on. But that won’t stop me from networking and applying to the majors, including American!
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04-22-2021 | 01:20 AM
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Maybe, depends what your goals are. I would list them out but that would be viewed as negotiating by our union (or whatever is left of it).
This place is so segmented out, if your on the 175, life is great. 145? Not so much. I know I out earned some peers at other carriers but that was purely by playing the game in a manner the 145 pilots cannot play and probably won’t until we become an all 170/175 carrier.
Much respect to Republic and their contract but we don’t get an actual renewal until another couple of years, just a cost neutral adjustment for the time being.
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