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Excargodog 04-22-2021 08:22 PM


Originally Posted by OldBiff (Post 3225540)
so we’re just going to ignore that 300 number for this year?

This was the gouge on hiring from the AA thread a couple weeks ago:



Originally Posted by morerightrudder (Post 3216749)
Most definitely not in the know. But before AA can hire OTS, there's still:
  • Around 450 people who have not been recalled yet.
  • 2-3 classes who started training but were then sent home (dunno if they count as part of the 450).
  • 1 class that got seniority numbers but never started training.
  • 3 classes of CJOs who had been slated to start in April 2020.
  • Unknown number of people who interviewed/were waiting for a class date.


If you aren’t in one of these groups then you are apparently behind ~550-600 people, some of the furloughed will need new type ratings themselves since the equipment they once flew is now retired.

But seriously 04-23-2021 02:36 AM


Originally Posted by Excargodog (Post 3225543)
This was the gouge on hiring from the AA thread a couple weeks ago:





If you aren’t in one of these groups then you are apparently behind ~550-600 people, some of the furloughed will need new type ratings themselves since the equipment they once flew is now retired.

AA said they plan to hire 300 new hire pilots in Q4 2021. Approximately 60 of those new hire pilots hire at AA will be ENY flow though pilots. All that stuff you quoted above was posters spitballing.

Naviator 04-23-2021 03:05 PM


Originally Posted by coodrough568 (Post 3224529)
Its ok. Flowing 1 per month would be 100% more than we are flying right now


uh....no.

that’s not the way math works.

Naviator 04-23-2021 03:07 PM


Originally Posted by AV8R72 (Post 3224527)
if AA catches up flows for the last year, then it’ll be great, but I haven’t heard that mentioned.

what are you even talking about? There is no flow that could be “caught up”. AA flowed exactly the number called for in the CBA over the last year.

buddies8 04-23-2021 04:53 PM

Retroactive flow, what a novel idea. You learn that in the cadet program.

AV8R72 04-23-2021 05:07 PM


Originally Posted by buddies8 (Post 3225860)
Retroactive flow, what a novel idea. You learn that in the cadet program.

you can make fun of him and be DB if you want, but you knew what he meant. It’s not a crazy idea and the union email had to be alluding to something similar or even a temporary increase.

NoValueAviator 04-23-2021 05:20 PM

idk about you guys but I was promised a 5.5 year flow by envoy and hired under that pretense. why let them off the hook? of course they'll have to catch up. they needed to catch up like 4 years of flows before covid. maybe they should just staple us

AV8R72 04-23-2021 06:05 PM


Originally Posted by novalueaviator (Post 3225869)
idk about you guys but i was promised a 5.5 year flow by envoy and hired under that pretense. Why let them off the hook? Of course they'll have to catch up. They needed to catch up like 4 years of flows before covid. Maybe they should just staple us

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LAXtoDEN 04-23-2021 08:41 PM


Originally Posted by NoValueAviator (Post 3225869)
idk about you guys but I was promised a 5.5 year flow by envoy and hired under that pretense. why let them off the hook? of course they'll have to catch up. they needed to catch up like 4 years of flows before covid. maybe they should just staple us

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