you can’t answer a question with a question. It’s intellectually dishonest and makes you look like you’re avoiding the question…. You don’t want to be labeled a troll right? (Rhetorical question. Everyone knows what you are doing)

FYI…my flow date (in print….not a typo) was 2029…..


try again buttercup. Read the questions, sound out the big words and formulate a coherent response. Maybe remind me how dumb I was to leave that awesome commute to six days of reserve sitting eight hour a day airport standby. Something along those lines will definitely put me in my place.

 

I seriously hope you never see the inside of a flight deck again. You are so incredibly delusional to believe what you are typing that your decisions can’t be considered rational and are a threat to safety if you were to fly.

Check the numbers. Those going to AA, including the flow, is a drop in the bucket of those leaving Envoy. People are bailing because there are so many better opportunities out there.

 

Yes its a problem at the wo's but the bigger problem is new hires at aa leaving to go elsewhere.

 

Lines for March are so bad, the most jr reserve guy has a shot at holding a hard line.

 

Eh, seriously doubt it. With the small number of pilots on reserve, even the most senior person is likely to get called. Unless there just happens to be a day off that fits a reserve line better than a hard line, those senior guys aren’t going to set themselves up for the abuse.

 

That right there tells you all you need to know if some are still considering flow a great deal. A backup to the least attractive legacy job at best.
United is hiring and cleaning AA’s RJ feed pilots out faster than any flow….

 

The lengths you go to in order to "hide" your jealousy from anyone at AA is mind blowing. "Hide" in quotes because your posts always have an undercurrent of vitriol toward AA and everybody knows it's because you blew it and are having to fly at some charter.

The amount of guys leaving AA is miniscule. MINISCULE. A trickle over the last year. Ever thought maybe somebody lives in Atlanta and decided it was worth it not to commute? Those are the ONLY guys leaving AA. You guys post here and make it sound like it's hundreds. Nope. Not even close.

 

So you do admit that aa pilots are leaving and going elsewhere. Miniscule as you say is a major problem at aa. AA has no answer to rectify that. AA did try to lock wo pilots to 3 years with the retention bonus but from what I know only 4 in 10 accepted. That leaves 60 percent of those pilots going elsewhere as their aa brethren.

 

You love to make assumptions. Best thing that ever happened was getting out of AA/AMR/AAG. I love what I do, who we fly for, and actually have a management that supports us rather than harasses, ignores, mistreats their pilots like Envoy is famous for. Even with all the bending over the pilot shortage has forced you to do (which we told you would happen) you still have the industry reputation for abusing your best resource. You people are idiots, and you more than most. Once guys get out they realize how bad that place really was. every pilots job upon completing IOE should be taking the first path out and up. You just don’t like that there are those of us who give a sh#$T about other pilots and want them to know life outside AAG is far superior than what they’re being subjected to. No wonder you need a college pipeline, anybody with industry experience would never choose Envoy. You just want to use them as cheaply as possible to feather your own nest.

guys leaving AA should be zero…. Not a trickle.
They aren’t leaving Delta or United to go to AA. AA has turned into a big ULCC and while QOL is superior than the regionals, it’s inferior to every other legacy. That you haven’t realized that yet is a testament to your level of indoctrination.

 

Cujo, tell us how you REALLY feel…