Search

Notices
Envoy Airlines Regional Airline

RIP Envoy

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 01-02-2022 | 06:04 PM
  #1  
Thread Starter
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Jan 2017
Posts: 2,510
Likes: 0
Default RIP Envoy

Judging by the lack of activity here, I’d have to say interest in the ‘Voy is at an all time low. Almost, ALMOST, missing the KoolAid’s rhetoric.

Ironically, I think regional airlines are going to have to do something about flight attendant pay and conditions, possibly before pilots. Granted the qualifications for FAs are minimal, but finding some to stick it out past six months (again, more at the regional level) is starting to put a damper on things. Although, when AA had the cascading meltdown two months ago after the big wind event in DFW, it was the mainline FAs, not the pilots, that drove most of the cancellations.
Reply
Old 01-02-2022 | 07:01 PM
  #2  
Line Holder
 
Joined: Oct 2020
Posts: 48
Likes: 0
From: Gear Slinger
Default

People too busy getting junior manned twice a month to post on here. Or they’re filling their time with complaining about the union on Facebook.
Reply
Old 01-02-2022 | 07:35 PM
  #3  
Thread Starter
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Jan 2017
Posts: 2,510
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by MidsizeSUV
People too busy getting junior manned twice a month to post on here. Or they’re filling their time with complaining about the union on Facebook.
Quite true, but I was thinking about the lack of anyone that isn’t on property yet asking questions. Maybe there is a new forum boomers don’t know about yet.
Reply
Old 01-03-2022 | 07:21 AM
  #4  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Feb 2018
Posts: 1,547
Likes: 0
From: Resigned
Default

Good sign. Interacted with a new hire recently in a hotel van in DFW and got a sense of extremely poorly suited disposition, he was shouting demands and dictating where the van driver would drop off first because he cut it too close on his flight, causing a couple guys to be late to their sim. Truly scraping the bottom of the barrel.
Reply
Old 01-03-2022 | 07:24 AM
  #5  
Thread Starter
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Jan 2017
Posts: 2,510
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by NoValueAviator
Good sign. Interacted with a new hire recently in a hotel van in DFW and got a sense of extremely poorly suited disposition, he was shouting demands and dictating where the van driver would drop off first because he cut it too close on his flight, causing a couple guys to be late to their sim. Truly scraping the bottom of the barrel.
Sounds like he has a future in management and or crew scheduling. Maybe JE’s eventual replacement!
Reply
Old 01-03-2022 | 08:06 AM
  #6  
Line Holder
 
Joined: Jan 2017
Posts: 97
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by NoValueAviator
Good sign. Interacted with a new hire recently in a hotel van in DFW and got a sense of extremely poorly suited disposition, he was shouting demands and dictating where the van driver would drop off first because he cut it too close on his flight, causing a couple guys to be late to their sim. Truly scraping the bottom of the barrel.

So nobody put him in his place?
Reply
Old 01-03-2022 | 08:09 AM
  #7  
Line Holder
 
Joined: Sep 2019
Posts: 414
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by MochaSwirl
So nobody put him in his place?
This type usually hit a brick wall at some point sooner than later. seen it happen
Reply
Old 01-03-2022 | 02:21 PM
  #8  
Line Holder
 
Joined: Jun 2021
Posts: 43
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by MidsizeSUV
People too busy getting junior manned twice a month to post on here. Or they’re filling their time with complaining about the union on Facebook.
Hopefully everyone is updating their apps. United is hiring 60+ per week.
Reply
Old 01-03-2022 | 02:26 PM
  #9  
Line Holder
 
Joined: Sep 2019
Posts: 414
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by enyPSIsc2b
Hopefully everyone is updating their apps. United is hiring 60+ per week.
Yup, take advantage of those unpaid lost days to update your apps.
Reply
Old 01-04-2022 | 09:11 AM
  #10  
chihuahua's Avatar
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: May 2021
Posts: 421
Likes: 0
Default

I've posted asking questions here before about Envoy, and other airlines as well as having attended their Aerocrew online job fairs since I was considering getting back into 121 in the late summer and fall. Decided to continue staying on the sidelines of aviation for now. Seems like every airline is understaffed, line holders getting minimum days off, blatant contract violations, low morale, management planning flights they know they don't have the crews to staff properly, etc. Nobody seems happy, and the problems that caused the days long operational meltdowns over the holidays seem to be headed for getting a lot worse before they get a better. Even those that are lucky enough to get a job at mainline AA are going to be stuck doing initial training sims at midnight because management can't competently run an airline, so they're being set up for failure right from the start.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Skyvector
Envoy Airlines
6966
06-18-2022 11:07 AM
Jland0413
Envoy Airlines
31
08-27-2016 07:03 PM
404yxl
PSA Airlines
392
03-22-2016 03:47 PM
Alex14
Envoy Airlines
1794
02-19-2016 04:53 PM
3inthegreen
Compass Airlines
140
04-14-2015 03:44 PM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



Your Privacy Choices