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02-20-2023 | 03:03 PM
#12
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Didn't need to the know the "golf" thing to know it was bogus. Companies are going to choose the path of least resistance to obtain their goals. If they wanted to bring regional airplane in house, they'd just do it and hire the pilots to fill those seats. Would be a hell of a lot easier than the negotiations that would be needed to merge/staple seniority lists.
02-21-2023 | 12:14 PM
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The original poster isn't far off. This is something that's been on the table for a long time. With the pay rate increases that have happened in the last year, this issue has been driven to the front burner. I can confirm that it is being discussed at high levels and the burning question is exactly how to absorb Envoy and bring the pilots over onto the current AA contract. Being that AA is in negotiations with the pilots now is somewhat of a plus as it's something that has been broached as to how to incorporate this into the proposed TA. With everything that I'm hearing, I would expect further traction as negotiations continue.
02-21-2023 | 03:03 PM
#14
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For anyone new to the Envoy forum, the last post is from the resident Envoy management stooge, who I believe is not even here anymore. Expect posts that paint a rosy picture and rumors that will never come true from him.
02-21-2023 | 03:05 PM
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The original poster isn't far off. This is something that's been on the table for a long time. With the pay rate increases that have happened in the last year, this issue has been driven to the front burner. I can confirm that it is being discussed at high levels and the burning question is exactly how to absorb Envoy and bring the pilots over onto the current AA contract. Being that AA is in negotiations with the pilots now is somewhat of a plus as it's something that has been broached as to how to incorporate this into the proposed TA. With everything that I'm hearing, I would expect further traction as negotiations continue.
02-22-2023 | 08:31 AM
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From: Whale FO
The original poster isn't far off. This is something that's been on the table for a long time. With the pay rate increases that have happened in the last year, this issue has been driven to the front burner. I can confirm that it is being discussed at high levels and the burning question is exactly how to absorb Envoy and bring the pilots over onto the current AA contract. Being that AA is in negotiations with the pilots now is somewhat of a plus as it's something that has been broached as to how to incorporate this into the proposed TA. With everything that I'm hearing, I would expect further traction as negotiations continue.
If you knew what you were talking about, you would have seen the list that was created a few years ago. Have you seen it?
02-22-2023 | 02:10 PM
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An actual AA seniority list number would be worth more to many. That being said, I’m not one to believe it will ever happen, which is why I was quick to refute lackeys like CR700.
02-22-2023 | 02:32 PM
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Nah, whipsaw works better when you have more than one WO. If the regional model survives, there'll be more than one WO.
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