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Old 02-22-2023, 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by highfarfast View Post
Nah, whipsaw works better when you have more than one WO. If the regional model survives, there'll be more than one WO.
Poster above was pretty close. Those 145s have a lifespan of less than 5 years. PDT is having serious trouble staffing even with the new payrates. I can also tell you that the conversations about one list are specific to Envoy and AA. If PSA is having their own conversation with AA, then I'm unaware. I've heard absolutely zero about any talks between PSA and AA. I do know the conversation with Envoy/AA has been regular and productive. Just a lot of kinks to iron out to make it a reality at present.
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Old 02-22-2023, 11:09 PM
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I answered Eagle ALPA polling questions on this topic in circa 2003. I’m sure they are getting right to it. Y’all still have the Hat Police at DFW?
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Old 02-24-2023, 01:58 AM
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Poster above was pretty close. Those 145s have a lifespan of less than 5 years. PDT is having serious trouble staffing even with the new payrates. I can also tell you that the conversations about one list are specific to Envoy and AA. If PSA is having their own conversation with AA, then I'm unaware. I've heard absolutely zero about any talks between PSA and AA. I do know the conversation with Envoy/AA has been regular and productive. Just a lot of kinks to iron out to make it a reality at present.
And I can tell you you are lying.

I've seen the list you are talking about and you are FOS.
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Old 02-24-2023, 10:52 AM
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And I can tell you you are lying.

I've seen the list you are talking about and you are FOS.
So, you admit there is a list then? Good, we are past step one. I wouldn't expect you would know anything that's on it because you haven't worked here in quite some time.
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Old 02-24-2023, 01:37 PM
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So, you admit there is a list then? Good, we are past step one. I wouldn't expect you would know anything that's on it because you haven't worked here in quite some time.
There is a list, it's just not a list you are talking about.
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There is a list, it's just not a list you are talking about.
I have been on some people’s list. It does not bother me.
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Old 03-16-2023, 07:23 AM
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Wait, what? That post is a year old. Where’s that order of new 175s for Envoy? That coming with the AA seniority numbers? Just give up and go back to your corner in momma’s basement with your Microsoft Flight Sim.
US regional carrier Envoy Air expects six more Embraer 175s | News | Flight Global

Here you go.
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Old 03-16-2023, 08:01 AM
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While those are MORE 175s, they are NOT new. Certainly not a new order. They key is in the wording. AAG ASSIGNING six more 175s to Envoy. If lucky, they were the last six purchased that were yanked during Covid that Republic got. With the 145s going away, still a net loss of aircraft, but at least a step in the right direction.

Don’t forget the LAX base opening. Well, PHX anyway. 120 pilots. Starting small with 12 lines in both May and June.
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Old 03-16-2023, 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by pitchattitude View Post
While those are MORE 175s, they are NOT new. Certainly not a new order. They key is in the wording. AAG ASSIGNING six more 175s to Envoy. If lucky, they were the last six purchased that were yanked during Covid that Republic got. With the 145s going away, still a net loss of aircraft, but at least a step in the right direction.

Don’t forget the LAX base opening. Well, PHX anyway. 120 pilots. Starting small with 12 lines in both May and June.
Is Envoy really opening an LAX base or is this more rumor?

I saw that announcement yesterday and my first thought was I wonder where they are reallocating E175s from. With Mesa’s 900s being gradually pulled out of the American system there is scope room. The Air Wisconsin CRJ 200s won’t directly replace them. Envoy must be doing well to be able to expand E175 flying while retraining E145 pilots.
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Old 03-16-2023, 08:36 AM
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Is Envoy really opening an LAX base or is this more rumor?

I saw that announcement yesterday and my first thought was I wonder where they are reallocating E175s from. With Mesa’s 900s being gradually pulled out of the American system there is scope room. The Air Wisconsin CRJ 200s won’t directly replace them. Envoy must be doing well to be able to expand E175 flying while retraining E145 pilots.
Essentially, PHX was decided upon in place of LAX. For the moment. As Mesa transitions out, AA wanted Envoy to fill PHX as they wanted the reliability and the superior product. As you are likely aware, Skywest is having a tough time flying their schedule. Envoy will return to LAX and it just may be sooner rather than later if Skywest is unable to deliver on their contract. The long term plan is for Envoy to fly those 175's in LAX.
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