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The 4/7 class officially has started the pull of OTS from the 2024 canceled classes. The OTS who were called are being called by the orientation group (May>June>July>those without an orientation) then by age oldest to youngest of those groups. There does seem to still be a decent flow of cadets in the classes and priority will remain for them.
Rough estimation on classes starting (expect an email a month out from class): May cancelled orientation should be finished up by the end of April/May. June cancelled class should expect to start late May into June. July classes after that. All are rough/conservative estimates and could change depending on if class sizes get larger/smaller and dependent on how many cadets finish their hours in the meantime. Training does typically slow down in the fall as the busy season slows but Envoy is wanting to hire close to 500-600 pilots this year and to do that classes most likely will run throughout the year to meet that goal. As of right now class sizes have varied between 20-35/class running every two weeks and to meet their goal these numbers will most likely not change. I have heard that OTS interviews are starting back as well in the upcoming weeks if they havent already started. So those looking with no 121 experience will most likely need ATP/CTP course completed to be competitive as Envoy does not pay for it for OTS hires anymore. I expect 121 experience will be perfered so those looking to come over should expect classes this fall after completing the interview process. |
Originally Posted by DonnJuan
(Post 3889966)
The 4/7 class officially has started the pull of OTS from the 2024 canceled classes. The OTS who were called are being called by the orientation group (May>June>July>those without an orientation) then by age oldest to youngest of those groups. There does seem to still be a decent flow of cadets in the classes and priority will remain for them.
Rough estimation on classes starting (expect an email a month out from class): May cancelled orientation should be finished up by the end of April/May. June cancelled class should expect to start late May into June. July classes after that. All are rough/conservative estimates and could change depending on if class sizes get larger/smaller and dependent on how many cadets finish their hours in the meantime. Training does typically slow down in the fall as the busy season slows but Envoy is wanting to hire close to 500-600 pilots this year and to do that classes most likely will run throughout the year to meet that goal. As of right now class sizes have varied between 20-35/class running every two weeks and to meet their goal these numbers will most likely not change. I have heard that OTS interviews are starting back as well in the upcoming weeks if they havent already started. So those looking with no 121 experience will most likely need ATP/CTP course completed to be competitive as Envoy does not pay for it for OTS hires anymore. I expect 121 experience will be perfered so those looking to come over should expect classes this fall after completing the interview process. |
Originally Posted by DonnJuan
(Post 3889966)
The 4/7 class officially has started the pull of OTS from the 2024 canceled classes. The OTS who were called are being called by the orientation group (May>June>July>those without an orientation) then by age oldest to youngest of those groups. There does seem to still be a decent flow of cadets in the classes and priority will remain for them.
Rough estimation on classes starting (expect an email a month out from class): May cancelled orientation should be finished up by the end of April/May. June cancelled class should expect to start late May into June. July classes after that. All are rough/conservative estimates and could change depending on if class sizes get larger/smaller and dependent on how many cadets finish their hours in the meantime. Training does typically slow down in the fall as the busy season slows but Envoy is wanting to hire close to 500-600 pilots this year and to do that classes most likely will run throughout the year to meet that goal. As of right now class sizes have varied between 20-35/class running every two weeks and to meet their goal these numbers will most likely not change. I have heard that OTS interviews are starting back as well in the upcoming weeks if they havent already started. So those looking with no 121 experience will most likely need ATP/CTP course completed to be competitive as Envoy does not pay for it for OTS hires anymore. I expect 121 experience will be perfered so those looking to come over should expect classes this fall after completing the interview process. |
Originally Posted by DonnJuan
(Post 3889966)
The 4/7 class officially has started the pull of OTS from the 2024 canceled classes. The OTS who were called are being called by the orientation group (May>June>July>those without an orientation) then by age oldest to youngest of those groups. There does seem to still be a decent flow of cadets in the classes and priority will remain for them.
Rough estimation on classes starting (expect an email a month out from class): May cancelled orientation should be finished up by the end of April/May. June cancelled class should expect to start late May into June. July classes after that. All are rough/conservative estimates and could change depending on if class sizes get larger/smaller and dependent on how many cadets finish their hours in the meantime. Training does typically slow down in the fall as the busy season slows but Envoy is wanting to hire close to 500-600 pilots this year and to do that classes most likely will run throughout the year to meet that goal. As of right now class sizes have varied between 20-35/class running every two weeks and to meet their goal these numbers will most likely not change. I have heard that OTS interviews are starting back as well in the upcoming weeks if they havent already started. So those looking with no 121 experience will most likely need ATP/CTP course completed to be competitive as Envoy does not pay for it for OTS hires anymore. I expect 121 experience will be perfered so those looking to come over should expect classes this fall after completing the interview process. And to everyone who keeps saying "cadet pool is dried up" or "looks like cadet pool will be empty soon"... ya the cadets are never going to "dry up." Seems pretty clear that cadets are the way of the future at airlines and that flow is never going to stop. Even at SWA, whom I am also waiting for a class date from, the only people who have seen a new-hire classroom in over a year at this point are.. D225 cadets. |
Originally Posted by worthlesscjos
(Post 3890011)
Hey this is all great gouge, but any chance you could tell us where you're getting your information? All your posts seem to have way more information than the folks in Class Prep give. Also, did you get the call? I think you said you were May orientation?
And to everyone who keeps saying "cadet pool is dried up" or "looks like cadet pool will be empty soon"... ya the cadets are never going to "dry up." Seems pretty clear that cadets are the way of the future at airlines and that flow is never going to stop. Even at SWA, whom I am also waiting for a class date from, the only people who have seen a new-hire classroom in over a year at this point are.. D225 cadets. |
So, has anyone here from the OTS pop received an email for 4/7 class?
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Originally Posted by Redwood19
(Post 3890302)
Yes and yes
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Quick question: does anyone know what's fueling Envoy to hire 600 pilots? I understand that most of it is the flow to American, so what's fueling that flow on American's side? Is it retirements, growth...? Delta/United announced yesterday that they will cut some of their summer flying for various reasons. If American decides to do the same, how will that affect the flow and subsequent hiring/classes at Envoy?
Granted, Delta/United CEOs said they felt confident that Q1's performance and consumer confidence are temporary and are not omens of what is coming, but still raises some concerns about slowdowns across the industry. |
Originally Posted by MogeonChamp
(Post 3891868)
Quick question: does anyone know what's fueling Envoy to hire 600 pilots? I understand that most of it is the flow to American, so what's fueling that flow on American's side? Is it retirements, growth...? Delta/United announced yesterday that they will cut some of their summer flying for various reasons. If American decides to do the same, how will that affect the flow and subsequent hiring/classes at Envoy?
Granted, Delta/United CEOs said they felt confident that Q1's performance and consumer confidence are temporary and are not omens of what is coming, but still raises some concerns about slowdowns across the industry. |
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