They don't seem to want them. Myself and a couple of friends are HTFOs with CJOs from last year. Still no class dates, even though people interviewing now are getting class dates for this summer.

Throughout training, I've heard instructors make comments about the performance of the last round of DEC they had in 2023-2024. It seems the company has a bad taste in their mouth about how they performed. I haven't heard of many new FOs washing out, but a lot of DEC hires either washed out of training or were fired for various performance-based reasons. If I had to guess, this may be why they're stalling on getting the previous 121 experience guys going.

Do you (or anyone) know the current hiring bonuses, and stipulations for retention?

Thanks

No bonuses at all now. That ended May 2024.

It’s a company market now, they don’t have to give bonuses anymore due to the abundance of pilots.

When I spoke to a recruiter for Envoy at a job fair 2 years ago, they would not hire me into the right seat because I had 2,000 hours of 121 time. I was "forced" into the DEC program. My interview literally consisted of, "When can you start?" The DEC and/or HTFO program could be a great asset if they would just vet the people applying. I had been out of the 121 world for 24 years!!! Training was tough but myself and 9 out of the 11 DEC's in my class made it through. I've had 4 line checks over the last 1.5 years since I've been flying the line so the company has done their due diligence to weed out the bad apples. over 80 DEC's fired over that time...from what I've heard. But, we need HTFO's who WANT to upgrade due to the 1200-1400 hour (121 time) sandbagging FO's who are sucking at the company tit with the 750 hour CA pay and a cush quality of life who are waiting to get forced to upgrade. So, if you have 121 time and want to upgrade as soon as you're eligible, please keep applying and get on property ASAP!

Data point for you all, ~1200hr CFI OTS interviewed early June and received call for July 25 orientation this week. I assume they send more information/details closer to date?

how did you get an interview at 1200? I thought they were only interviewing when at mins.

Are you a cadet?
edit: oh 141 would make sense

I have a problem with some DECS, not all.
When the going got rough 2008, etc…these guys bowed out and didn’t have to endure the pain in the industry that the rest of us did. And just like that when the bonuses came …..”I think I want to be an airline pilot after all…even though I haven’t flown in 10-20 years. That’s where the DEC problem originated.

For those with upcoming interview...
 

Here's a Quizlet link I've found to be helpful with the Jeppesen symbology:

https://quizlet.com/876378615/jeppes...s-flash-cards/

Hope it helps!