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Old 05-12-2024 | 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Caviator77
Thanks! Do you mind me asking if you have 121 time? It seems like it was only cancelled for people without it :/ thanks!
Yes, 121 time.

Sounds like they are balancing Indoc classes out best they can between CA/FO.
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Old 05-13-2024 | 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by zmds
Yes, 121 time.

Sounds like they are balancing Indoc classes out best they can between CA/FO.
They’re getting rid of the bonus and waiting people out of the 90 days from CJO to class date so they’re not eligible.
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Old 05-13-2024 | 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by mesteve
They’re getting rid of the bonus and waiting people out of the 90 days from CJO to class date so they’re not eligible.
Not eligible for the bonus or to class up period? And what's your source?
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Old 05-13-2024 | 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by AGDP
Not eligible for the bonus or to class up period? And what's your source?
Target/average class size is 30-45; they’re collapsing orientation to day 0 so they’re not paying to sit at home, and I was just told there was a 0.01% chance of me seeing a bonus, even if I met all of the criteria.
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Old 05-13-2024 | 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by mesteve
Target/average class size is 30-45; they’re collapsing orientation to day 0 so they’re not paying to sit at home, and I was just told there was a 0.01% chance of me seeing a bonus, even if I met all of the criteria.
It will get worse. SJS and I’ll fly for free if I can get a job will bring a sad return to the old days.
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Old 05-15-2024 | 07:03 AM
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Originally Posted by PsubS
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I was assigned an orientation date of June 6, 2024. I received a call today that this event has been cancelled and they will be in touch regarding my indoc date. I have already completed my ATP multi written.
Currently in ATP/CTP right now, and taking my written in a few days. I was assigned Orientation on July 11th, and was just called this morning and was told it was cancelled (as were 2 other Cadets I know that had the same class date). Very concerning that they’re cancelling classes that are almost 2 months out.
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Old 05-15-2024 | 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by APCHCLIMB
It will get worse. SJS and I’ll fly for free if I can get a job will bring a sad return to the old days.
One could argue it's worse than the old days. Training contracts of yore were what...12-24 months? Now, they require 1600 hrs of PIC? Depending on where one is based, that could take upwards of 4 or 5 years???
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Old 05-15-2024 | 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by PetuniaRose
Currently in ATP/CTP right now, and taking my written in a few days. I was assigned Orientation on July 11th, and was just called this morning and was told it was cancelled (as were 2 other Cadets I know that had the same class date). Very concerning that they’re cancelling classes that are almost 2 months out.
Sounds like this doesn’t necessarily mean your class is cancelled, just orientation. Could still get any indoc date
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Old 05-15-2024 | 09:25 AM
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Yeah agree, thus far everything I'm hearing is about orientation going away, not necessarily classes being done away with for good. I'm staying optimistic for now!
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Old 05-15-2024 | 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by PetuniaRose
Currently in ATP/CTP right now, and taking my written in a few days. I was assigned Orientation on July 11th, and was just called this morning and was told it was cancelled (as were 2 other Cadets I know that had the same class date). Very concerning that they’re cancelling classes that are almost 2 months out.
I just started ATP/CTP as well. Got a call from an Envoy Recruiter around 0900 central that I missed, they left a message telling me the same thing for my July 11th orientation being cancelled. She mentioned that I should be scheduled to start within 60 days of my ATP/CTP finish date on the 24th of May. I called to verify and she confirmed what the voicemail left for me said, she said it was part of our contract to start within 60 days of us doing ATP. I emailed them and got the reply:

"That should be the time frame, however we do not know dates yet for anyone who has been cancelled unfortunately. When we do know more, we will definitely be reaching out"

We will see if they stick with that timeframe.
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