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flyingdragon 08-29-2025 10:49 AM


Originally Posted by tallpilot (Post 3942816)
It's a tough environment right now. What is 180TT? Turbine? If it's multi keep flying the crap out of that. If it isn't try to get the multi up and when you have the time get an unrestricted ATP (I know you already spent a bundle on ratings but you need to differentiate yourself from the sea of CFIs if you aren't a cadet).

In the meantime get some face time with recruiters. It seems silly and it's usually difficult to get time off from entry level jobs and you don't have flight benefits but it works. Even if it only gets you hired 3 months earlier that can make a big difference.

Mis-typed. 1800TT only 30 of which is multi-engine. All my time has been as a CFI.

flypilotfly 08-29-2025 01:49 PM


Originally Posted by flyingdragon (Post 3943523)
Mis-typed. 1800TT only 30 of which is multi-engine. All my time has been as a CFI.

I was wondering the same thing. I’m right at 1500 with 40 multi ATP/CTP complete. Looking at the experience of the guys getting interviews (per airlineinterviews.com), it looks like there’s a trend of people with higher amounts of multi getting interviews. all speculation though. If anyone has insight please share!

TerrainAhead 08-29-2025 05:16 PM

Anyone knows how many in August 25th class? Does anyone knows if a September 8th class has been scheduled?

P3Driver 08-31-2025 08:38 AM

Any of the HTFOs who had class dates cancelled last year in May get a class date yet? I'm still waiting - offer letter was in March 2024. All of my time is ME, I have an ATP and have prior 121 experience. I don't get it. Yes, I've emailed them and they keep responding that they will get me in when they get me in.

TerrainAhead 08-31-2025 09:21 AM


Originally Posted by P3Driver (Post 3944082)
Any of the HTFOs who had class dates cancelled last year in May get a class date yet? I'm still waiting - offer letter was in March 2024. All of my time is ME, I have an ATP and have prior 121 experience. I don't get it. Yes, I've emailed them and they keep responding that they will get me in when they get me in.

Wondering why would they even give classes to people that interviewed this year if they have a backlog of people from last year… wow. I mean, unless they think you are still working might make sense to open the door for some others but still…

RtRuddr 08-31-2025 09:33 AM


Originally Posted by P3Driver (Post 3944082)
Any of the HTFOs who had class dates cancelled last year in May get a class date yet? I'm still waiting - offer letter was in March 2024. All of my time is ME, I have an ATP and have prior 121 experience. I don't get it. Yes, I've emailed them and they keep responding that they will get me in when they get me in.

Not a peep. I've emailed them a few times and always get the standard "sit down and shut up" canned response that makes me think they aren't even reading the email.

I was lucky and found a better job in the 16 months they've left me hanging. But if I hadn't, it would be a hard sell to go work for a company that treats people like that. I stomached the bring the cadets in first stuff. But OTS guys are getting interviewed and put into classes now. And I've heard the issues with earlier HTFOs and DECs, but stringing people along like this is downright wrong.

OddPath 09-02-2025 08:10 AM

Finally got the call 2 weeks ago. Maybe this helps some...
Im a LTFO. (<1000hrs 121)
Interview: May 29th, 2024
Class Date: September 8th, 2025

Was told they recently (from class date phone call notification) got the 'go-ahead' to start onboarding LTFO's.

TerrainAhead 09-02-2025 08:28 AM


Originally Posted by OddPath (Post 3944681)
Finally got the call 2 weeks ago. Maybe this helps some...
Im a LTFO. (<1000hrs 121)
Interview: May 29th, 2024
Class Date: September 8th, 2025

Was told they recently (from class date phone call notification) got the 'go-ahead' to start onboarding LTFO's.

Congrats! Odd though, they’ve been onboarding LTFOs, I believe the issue was with high timers (HTFOs)? It would be great if you share how many were in class once you start! Appreciate the help!

MogeonChamp 09-02-2025 10:26 AM

I'm pretty sure they're still doing 30-40 people every two weeks. That's what the word on the street is, at least, and I believe it based on the recent seniority postings.

flyingdragon 09-02-2025 12:34 PM


Originally Posted by MogeonChamp (Post 3944735)
I'm pretty sure they're still doing 30-40 people every two weeks. That's what the word on the street is, at least, and I believe it based on the recent seniority postings.

Any info on if they are hiring non-cadet CFIs? I am at 1900TT, ATP written but only about 40hrs multi (not a lot of multi instruction at the school I work at).
I am considering buying more multi time or doing an ATP ride in a piston twin.


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