Envoy's future
06-19-2014 | 08:46 AM
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personally, I think it is too late to save envoy - the death spiral has already started
newhires are steering clear
newhires are steering clear
06-19-2014 | 09:26 AM
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You will not see our guys (APA) approving any such scheme to bypass seniority pay rates. That would be like a B-scale. Having 2 new hires in class, one on 1st year pay, and another on some other step isn't likely to happen.
Stick to realistic goals that can be reached in a short period of time; you do not have the time to enter into 4 party negotiations for numbers schemes.
Stick to realistic goals that can be reached in a short period of time; you do not have the time to enter into 4 party negotiations for numbers schemes.
Have all parties settled down now? Are they going to actually talk to each other this time?
06-19-2014 | 09:59 AM
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Settled down; difficult question to answer fully publicly right now. AAG is extremely sensitive in certain areas. When I say AAG, I mean the gang of six. Telling you the full depth of what has happened behind the scenes may satisfy your need for titillation; but it WILL harm your best interest if made public now.
When it's all worked out and documents signed; ask me again.
06-19-2014 | 10:13 AM
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You will not see our guys (APA) approving any such scheme to bypass seniority pay rates. That would be like a B-scale. Having 2 new hires in class, one on 1st year pay, and another on some other step isn't likely to happen.
Stick to realistic goals that can be reached in a short period of time; you do not have the time to enter into 4 party negotiations for numbers schemes.
Stick to realistic goals that can be reached in a short period of time; you do not have the time to enter into 4 party negotiations for numbers schemes.
06-19-2014 | 10:25 AM
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I agree, the end game may have been to keep Envoy as the wholly owned regional of choice, but they've made it so no one is coming here. I don't see any way they can change that.
06-19-2014 | 10:26 AM
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Yep, I think I'm the one who told you they had been working on an agreement in the first place.
Settled down; difficult question to answer fully publicly right now. AAG is extremely sensitive in certain areas. When I say AAG, I mean the gang of six. Telling you the full depth of what has happened behind the scenes may satisfy your need for titillation; but it WILL harm your best interest if made public now.
When it's all worked out and documents signed; ask me again.
Settled down; difficult question to answer fully publicly right now. AAG is extremely sensitive in certain areas. When I say AAG, I mean the gang of six. Telling you the full depth of what has happened behind the scenes may satisfy your need for titillation; but it WILL harm your best interest if made public now.
When it's all worked out and documents signed; ask me again.
As long as progress is being made, I'm happy. My biggest worry was always spite on behalf of AAG. If all childish games are over and we are realistically speaking again it is great news.
So the gang of six are actually engaging our Union again? I assume that Parker, Kirby, et al are part of this gang of six correct?
06-19-2014 | 02:05 PM
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From: Shiny One
American Airlines Group sending 20 regional jets to Compass Airlines | Dallas Morning News
American Airlines Group sending 20 regional jets to Compass Airlines
American Airlines Group sending 20 regional jets to Compass Airlines
American Airlines Group Inc. is sending 20 of its new 76-seat regional jets to Compass Airlines Inc. to fly under the American Eagle brand beginning early next year, officials said Wednesday.
The 20 airplanes are part of an order of 60 Embraer E175s that American placed in December. American has not said where the other 40 will go. But Compass said American has an option to put more aircraft with the Minneapolis-based airline.
“We’re thrilled to begin our partnership with American with these 20 new state-of-the-art aircraft that will allow us to provide a top-tier experience to customers of American,” Compass president and chief executive Richard Leach said in the company’s announcement.
“The opportunity to grow our operation for American beyond the 20 initial E175s we have been awarded also points to a bright future for Compass and our employees.”
American hadn’t previously contracted with Compass to operate as an American Eagle partner. However, Compass is part of Trans States Holdings Inc., parent of Trans States Airlines, and Trans States previously operated American Connection flights out of St. Louis for American.
“Compass Airlines has a proven history of providing safe, reliable, customer-friendly and cost-effective service on the E175 aircraft, and this made Compass a great choice for our business and our customers,” said Kenji Hashimoto, American’s senior vice president of regional carriers.
Trans States also operates as US Airways Express out of Pittsburgh for US Airways Inc., which is now part of American Airlines Group. And it operates as United Express out of Chicago and Washington Dulles.
Compass Airlines flies 42 Embraer E170s and E175s as Delta Connection flights for Delta Air Lines, mostly out of Delta’s Minneapolis-St. Paul and Detroit hubs.
Compass operates eight daily Delta Connection flights out of Dallas/Fort Worth International Airport — three to New York, three to Minneapolis-St. Paul and one each to Detroit and Salt Lake City.
The order for the 60 Embraer jets had become entangled in a dispute between American Airlines Group and the pilots union for Envoy Air, which was American Eagle Airlines before it was renamed in April.
American this year promised the airplanes to Envoy if its pilots approved a contract that made concessions. However, Envoy pilots turned down the deal.
“We hope Envoy will be able to fly larger and more cost-effective aircraft in the future,” American spokesman Casey Norton said Wednesday. “The E175 will be awarded as part of a competitive bidding process.”
Another regional airline, Republic Airlines Inc., began operating Embraer E175s as an American Eagle carrier last year. Republic is acquiring 47 E175s for its American Eagle operations, with 24 delivered as of March 31 and all to be in service by early 2015.
The 20 airplanes are part of an order of 60 Embraer E175s that American placed in December. American has not said where the other 40 will go. But Compass said American has an option to put more aircraft with the Minneapolis-based airline.
“We’re thrilled to begin our partnership with American with these 20 new state-of-the-art aircraft that will allow us to provide a top-tier experience to customers of American,” Compass president and chief executive Richard Leach said in the company’s announcement.
“The opportunity to grow our operation for American beyond the 20 initial E175s we have been awarded also points to a bright future for Compass and our employees.”
American hadn’t previously contracted with Compass to operate as an American Eagle partner. However, Compass is part of Trans States Holdings Inc., parent of Trans States Airlines, and Trans States previously operated American Connection flights out of St. Louis for American.
“Compass Airlines has a proven history of providing safe, reliable, customer-friendly and cost-effective service on the E175 aircraft, and this made Compass a great choice for our business and our customers,” said Kenji Hashimoto, American’s senior vice president of regional carriers.
Trans States also operates as US Airways Express out of Pittsburgh for US Airways Inc., which is now part of American Airlines Group. And it operates as United Express out of Chicago and Washington Dulles.
Compass Airlines flies 42 Embraer E170s and E175s as Delta Connection flights for Delta Air Lines, mostly out of Delta’s Minneapolis-St. Paul and Detroit hubs.
Compass operates eight daily Delta Connection flights out of Dallas/Fort Worth International Airport — three to New York, three to Minneapolis-St. Paul and one each to Detroit and Salt Lake City.
The order for the 60 Embraer jets had become entangled in a dispute between American Airlines Group and the pilots union for Envoy Air, which was American Eagle Airlines before it was renamed in April.
American this year promised the airplanes to Envoy if its pilots approved a contract that made concessions. However, Envoy pilots turned down the deal.
“We hope Envoy will be able to fly larger and more cost-effective aircraft in the future,” American spokesman Casey Norton said Wednesday. “The E175 will be awarded as part of a competitive bidding process.”
Another regional airline, Republic Airlines Inc., began operating Embraer E175s as an American Eagle carrier last year. Republic is acquiring 47 E175s for its American Eagle operations, with 24 delivered as of March 31 and all to be in service by early 2015.
06-19-2014 | 02:05 PM
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When are you Stopthewhipsaw guys going to post a list of names on facebook of the Compass pilots responsible for stealing your 20 Embraers?
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