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Old 07-15-2014 | 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by tom11011
It's only Tuesday morning geesh
Soon is as long as the "foreseeable future" (in regards to the CR7) in this industry. This week? Next week? 2 mos? 3 years? Both are extremely vague!
Old 07-15-2014 | 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by RyanP
So any glimmer of hope rumors that we were "strung along" with to maintain staffing over the summer has pretty much gone away. AGAIN.

Great. F this place. I'm not listening to these garbage rumors anymore. Every two to three weeks it's the same thing over and over again. "They are talking, deal to be had, you will wish you stayed..." Fail, fail, fail.. over and over and over again. Latest was We will hear something after the 4th.. What is it the 15th now? Nothing. Again. Waste of time. Now Retardo is apparently out on vacation getting drunk instead of taking care of his 75,000 employee's.

They are utterly incapable of negotiating or making smart decisions about this place. The end. I have never seen such gross incompetence in my life until I started working for this company.
Take a deep breath, Ryan!

I feel your frustration and share them...but keep in mind: dates don't mean a thing as far as making a deal goes. Vague references to "hearing something soon.." Or "...after the 4th" shouldn't be taken literally. Parker and his crew do not operate on the same time table as the rest of us.

The ultimate goal is the same. Parker himself said recently that ideally all aircraft would be placed at Envoy and the other two wholly owned. He still has a vision of career progression from Envoy to AA...again his words, not mine.

The only question is not "if" but "when" we will work it all out. Come to terms with the fact that there is a plan and future in place for Envoy...but you may not see it as quickly as we would all like.
Old 07-15-2014 | 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by RyanP
So any glimmer of hope rumors that we were "strung along" with to maintain staffing over the summer has pretty much gone away. AGAIN.

Great. F this place. I'm not listening to these garbage rumors anymore. Every two to three weeks it's the same thing over and over again. "They are talking, deal to be had, you will wish you stayed..." Fail, fail, fail.. over and over and over again. Latest was We will hear something after the 4th.. What is it the 15th now? Nothing. Again. Waste of time. Now Retardo is apparently out on vacation getting drunk instead of taking care of his 75,000 employee's.

They are utterly incapable of negotiating or making smart decisions about this place. The end. I have never seen such gross incompetence in my life until I started working for this company.
We should hear something next week.
Old 07-15-2014 | 10:25 AM
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If not next.....
Old 07-15-2014 | 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by RJ Pilot
Real classy coming from envoy's Alpa comm chairman. Go flow to AA and keep Tony company since both of you belong to each other.
I'll let those that know me, and those that know you be the judge of class. Your post shows how unbelievably clueless you are.
Old 07-15-2014 | 10:59 AM
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John your efforts did not go unnoticed to those who pay attention or care. The comm position while you were there was light years beyond your predecessor. Thanks for all your work.
Old 07-15-2014 | 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnGardner
I'll let those that know me, and those that know you be the judge of class. Your post shows how unbelievably clueless you are.
He has been trolling this site for years, and years. The years for him must be ticking by faster and faster, tick tock tick tock.
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While john has done a good job I do question the wisdom in having union leaders who are short term eagle guys. I hope when we elect our new reps we elect guys who won't be flowing within a year.
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I'll use my third post to step up and defend Johnny G. He worked crazy hard at the comm stuff. He pretty much built from scratch an entire framework for communicating with the pilot group. Agree or disagree with him, you can't say that he didn't have Eagle pilots' best interest at heart and you can't say he didn't work hard.
Old 07-15-2014 | 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by FeedTheYote
I'll use my third post to step up and defend Johnny G. He worked crazy hard at the comm stuff. He pretty much built from scratch an entire framework for communicating with the pilot group. Agree or disagree with him, you can't say that he didn't have Eagle pilots' best interest at heart and you can't say he didn't work hard.
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