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Old 11-21-2014, 05:50 AM
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Amen! I would love for it to happen - as would most of us.

Even if the airplane and pay were the same, I would like the chance to work directly for mainline from the beginning and work my way up.
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I completely agree with you on this!!!!!!!
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Amen! I would love for it to happen - as would most of us.

Even if the airplane and pay were the same, I would like the chance to work directly for mainline from the beginning and work my way up.
Remember, for every PSA or PDT contract, it just means more time spent at a regional as management justifies its means.

I've said before, there is a war going on. There will be winners, losers, cowards, and martyrs.

Eagle is still fighting the fight, but the real battle is at AA right now on scope. I'm pretty sure who will win this battle, but lets see how it plays out.
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Old 11-21-2014, 06:44 AM
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I'm pretty sure who will win this battle, but lets see how it plays out.
What is your guess on who wins this battle? I have no idea personally.
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Old 11-21-2014, 07:01 AM
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What is your guess on who wins this battle? I have no idea personally.
APA, no question. They have told Parker on multiple occasions they will not give on scope, and he just keeps asking for it. If it goes to arbitration, scope is off the table.

I'm sure there is a thread on it in the AA section somewhere.

As of last night, APA decided to continue talks. Today should have another announcement of some sort about it.
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Old 11-21-2014, 07:04 AM
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Remember, for every PSA or PDT contract, it just means more time spent at a regional as management justifies its means.
How will this mean more time spent at a regional???
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Old 11-21-2014, 07:10 AM
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How will this mean more time spent at a regional???
I wouldn't expect a YES voting, bar lowering, pilot group to understand that the concept. We already tried to educate your group and failed. Figure it out yourself.
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Old 11-21-2014, 07:13 AM
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I wouldn't expect a YES voting, bar lowering, pilot group to understand that the concept. We already tried to educate your group and failed. Figure it out yourself.
So you're saying everyone has to go to American?
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How will this mean more time spent at a regional???

As long as regionals are way cheaper than mainline and regional pilots are willing to degrade themselves through endless concessions on their already grossly underpaid salaries and largely poor QOL, the regionals will expand at the expense of mainline jobs. It is a tragedy that this isn't patently obvious by now.
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As long as regionals are way cheaper than mainline and regional pilots are willing to degrade themselves through endless concessions on their already grossly underpaid salaries and largely poor QOL, the regionals will expand at the expense of mainline jobs. It is a tragedy that this isn't patently obvious by now.
You mean as long as Mainline Pilots don't give up scope. Don't hate the players, hate the game.
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Old 11-21-2014, 10:17 AM
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It works both ways. No matter how much you try to wash your hands they won't come clean.

Don't try to make someone else responsible.
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