ENVOY presented with details on new contract
12-22-2014 | 04:51 PM
#701
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Closes tomorrow (23rd).
12-22-2014 | 05:01 PM
#702
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Don't bet on it. He still works there and more surprises are sure to come, so he'll remain fully engaged. BTW, his claim of supporting a rejection is all just more B.S. He's full throttle for ratification because as always, "it's good for him".
12-22-2014 | 05:04 PM
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No flames from him. He's a solid yes, not because it's good for Envoy pilots, but because it's good for him. If it requires throwing you under a bus in the future to grease his ride, expect to get tossed.
12-22-2014 | 07:57 PM
#704
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Well Nancey, I hate to break it to you but I don't have a say on this since I no longer work at envoy. But I agree in everything you said, and I am sure every OTHER regional, especially Compass, have your way of thinking.
Vote NO eny, Keep the solidarity, Concession stand is closed. Just give everything to the Compass, Mesa, TSA.
eny pilots Proudly "defending the profession in exchange for nothing" since 2014.....
Good Luck.
Vote NO eny, Keep the solidarity, Concession stand is closed. Just give everything to the Compass, Mesa, TSA.
eny pilots Proudly "defending the profession in exchange for nothing" since 2014.....
Good Luck.
12-22-2014 | 08:19 PM
#705
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That's why I said "in effect." The money owed that I was referring to is the amendment round credit. However, this group of pilots was almost undoubtedly going to reject the PBS system, and the penalty for that was a certain amount of money that ALPA would then owe the company. I'm saying, IN EFFECT, this money and the amendment round credit would have canceled out, and since I don't see any option in the TA for us to reject PBS after the 40th RJ, it looks to me like PBS is a sure eventuality once we sign, and therefore, in effect we're taking a payout but losing our ability to reject PBS. I could be wrong, that's just how I read it in the TA.
"It is the parties’ intent to complete PBS implementation as outlined in Letter 13-04 no later than 120 days after delivery of the 41st EMB-175."
Please see LOA 13-04
"Ratification of a PBS LOA, in accordance with ALPA administrative policies, will be required prior to EGL implementing any PBS for the purposes of constructing and awarding pilot monthly schedules."
Last edited by IDG99; 12-22-2014 at 08:24 PM. Reason: Add TA Reference
12-22-2014 | 10:30 PM
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12-23-2014 | 12:32 AM
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Not trying to flame, and I hope the best for Envoy pilots, but if this TA doesn't pass, why does everyone think the 175s will go to Compass?... What puts compass in a better position than say RAH? The fact that compass can staff?
12-23-2014 | 04:24 AM
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From: Semi-Retired...
Not trying to flame, and I hope the best for Envoy pilots, but if this TA doesn't pass, why does everyone think the 175s will go to Compass?... What puts compass in a better position than say RAH? The fact that compass can staff?
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