Whatever happened to the guaranteed aircraft from the bankruptcy CBA?

 

the then mec tony regime gave it away for a slideable (shrinking) furlough protection. i guess they thought a fleet guarantee was not better than a shrinking percentage furlough protection. what can you say, they were running a union busting consulting firm while alpa members and leaders. way to go alpa.

 

it sounds like the PDT 175s are NOT from the Dec 2013 AAG Embraer agreement

Question3. PDT's contract (Appendix D Paragraph 2.b. I believe) talks about options. It says that if they exercise 20 additional E-175 options that those options "will also be placed at Piedmont to be flown by Piedmont pilots..." Can we confirm that these options are not the same options referenced in our TA, and that they are in fact from a different aircraft order all together?

Answer: We have the right to the 90 options from the ordered placed on Dec 13', the PDT agreement doesn’t specify what order those A/C would come from.

Question5. I have a question on some logistics on new aircraft deliveries. AMR has 60 firm and 90 options for E-175 with 20 going to Compass. If this TA is passed, we are supposed to get the remaining 40 and the rest of the options. However, looking at the recent PDT TA, they also have 20 E-175s and 20 options. My question is where are their airplanes coming from if we are supposed to get everything that AA has on the books. The scope will not even allow for all the options to be converted at this time. Is PDT getting E-175s after we get 130 of them? How does this work out?

Answer: The PDT agreement doesn’t specify an A/C order, it states that 20 E175 will be placed there if certain conditions are met and that the company will place the first 20 options-- of an order that is not specified. One can assume that while they were negotiating over the E175 the PDT pilots had the current orders in mind, but that is not what they secured. This is why AAG made the language change on our agreement.

 

The delivery dates and slots were specified during their negotiations (I've seen the notes and it was confirmed to me and others at pdt). Uphill battle in court? Sure. But clearly both aag and pdt were on the exact same page during negotiations. Point is this, it doesn't matter who gets the planes initially or who they were promised to, aag will put them where convenient then deal with the fall out later. Apparently ENY can't even take delivery of all these airplanes due to the numbers being scoped out. Can someone at eny confirm that?

 

As of right now cause of AA scope, neither Envoy can exercise ALL 90 options, or PSA all their 40 options or republic with their 47 options

 

Once envy pilots stop the race to the bottom by voting NO tomm, AAG will announce those E175's to Compass.

Stay Stong eny Pilots. Do what's best for the industry.

Good Luck.

 

Republic is experiencing a pilot shortage as evidenced by their inability to staff United flying so the problem will just naturally work itself out. PSA, TSA, Mesa, and a few others are having record class sizes every two weeks so that's where airplanes from a variety of mainline partners will wind up.

 

Can't wait til this vote is over so that you will give it a rest

 

He will never give it a rest.

 

Didn't the vote close today, when do you guys get the results?