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-   -   Envoy to get 100% flow to AA. (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/envoy-airlines/88671-envoy-get-100-flow-aa.html)

Skyvector 09-05-2015 08:21 AM
Originally Posted by Ar Pilot (Post 1964577)
I'm not talking about PDT. This is an envoy thread. I recommend PDT to majority of my friends looking for their first airline.



I was one of those over 3000 numbers. Majority of the attrition from the last year or so have been guys bailing instead of flowing, but I'll let you have your thread back.

2.5/6, TiT, good time to be an envoy pilot Etc..
Key words. LAST YEAR. Sorry you left prematurely and are now having regrets.

Ar Pilot 09-05-2015 08:22 AM
Originally Posted by Skyvector (Post 1964582)
Key words. LAST YEAR. Sorry you left prematurely and are now having regrets.
It's ok bro i'm coming back.

Originally Posted by PDTpilotXX (Post 1964580)
But you said PDT flows would decrease... Soooo cool man. Thanks for the referrals?
I don't have the slightest clue what you're referring to. Holy sh*t i shouldn't have come into this thread.

tunes 09-05-2015 08:24 AM
Originally Posted by Skyvector (Post 1964582)
Key words. LAST YEAR. Sorry you left prematurely and are now having regrets.
dude is a CA at another airline instead of a reserve FO still at Envoy....i think he's perfectly content with his decision. I know this is shocking but he actually has motivation to network and better himself and actually apply at other airlines instead of sitting around waiting an eternity to flow....

babs 09-05-2015 09:01 AM
Originally Posted by Skyvector (Post 1964561)
Amazing.

When the flow started we were at 3,000 pilots. Currently we are at 2700 or so and still flowing at 50%.
Might want to check your numbers. We have ~2100 pilots currently.

Ar Pilot 09-05-2015 09:14 AM
Originally Posted by babs (Post 1964607)
Might want to check your numbers. We have ~2100 pilots currently.
Don't bring facts into this.

billyho 09-05-2015 09:28 AM
Originally Posted by tunes (Post 1964584)
dude is a CA at another airline instead of a reserve FO still at Envoy....i think he's perfectly content with his decision. I know this is shocking but he actually has motivation to network and better himself and actually apply at other airlines instead of sitting around waiting an eternity to flow....
So what! Doesn't every WO'ed pilot have the same option? Didn't realize if you were at one of the Wo'ed you couldn't be motivated to network and get a job a delta or united.

So he really wants a job at Delta and he's motivated and he's networking but doesn't get the job. Up next United and he's motivated and he's networking and doesn't get the job.
On the other hand a WO'ed pilot that got turned down by his first two choices in majors can just say, "oh well I guess I'll be going to American."

That's a nice luxury to have my friend.

jdflyer1999 09-05-2015 11:36 AM
Originally Posted by billyho (Post 1964629)
So what! Doesn't every WO'ed pilot have the same option? Didn't realize if you were at one of the Wo'ed you couldn't be motivated to network and get a job a delta or united.

So he really wants a job at Delta and he's motivated and he's networking but doesn't get the job. Up next United and he's motivated and he's networking and doesn't get the job.
On the other hand a WO'ed pilot that got turned down by his first two choices in majors can just say, "oh well I guess I'll be going to American."

That's a nice luxury to have my friend.
Or if your at Envoy or PDT you can add American to your interview list and if you still get turned down you can then flow to American

billyho 09-05-2015 11:46 AM
Originally Posted by tunes (Post 1964584)
and better himself and actually apply at other airlines instead of sitting around waiting an eternity to flow....
Yes! And this quote was kinda funny! Better Himself??? LOL What a douche bag!

tunes 09-05-2015 02:55 PM
Originally Posted by billyho (Post 1964711)
Yes! And this quote was kinda funny! Better Himself??? LOL What a douche bag!
pot, i'd like you to meet kettle. Flow is the red headed stepchild of this industry.

eaglefly 09-05-2015 02:58 PM
Originally Posted by PDTpilotXX (Post 1964521)
I think you're 97% correct... But how are they going to decrease the flows from ENY and PDT? They are locked in. PSA is the one out in the cold
By negotiated settlement with the respective wholly-owned unions. "Whipsawing" ISN'T just a good tool to pit one pilot group against another for pay or benefit purposes, but also to achieve a goal in modifying the flow to more realistic numbers that can be sustained.

Pay to play or be pushed aside.


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