Doug Parker State of the Airline-Envoy
07-26-2015 | 09:34 PM
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Yea if you guys want to use real information from accurate sources then here is the scoop. For the month of June Envoy had a CF of 94.98%, Mesa had 94.67 and TSA had a 94.25% completion factor. As far as "on time percentage" Envoy was on time 73.90%, Mesa 69.68%, and TSA was on time 60.29%.
So speaking for the Mesa vs Envoy debate looks like the Envoy guys really have nothing to boast about with only a CF of 0.31% better and a on time percentage of only 4.22% better.
So explain to me how TSA and Mesa are just "god awful" and Envoy is the shimmering beacon of light in performance again?
http://www.flightstats.com/go/Stats/...anceReports.do
So speaking for the Mesa vs Envoy debate looks like the Envoy guys really have nothing to boast about with only a CF of 0.31% better and a on time percentage of only 4.22% better.
So explain to me how TSA and Mesa are just "god awful" and Envoy is the shimmering beacon of light in performance again?
http://www.flightstats.com/go/Stats/...anceReports.do
07-27-2015 | 03:21 AM
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Well from a strictly personal experience, I was scheduled to DH on TSA one day out of LGA and literally every single outbound flight that TSA had that day was cancelled. The departure board tends to show TSA cancellations rather frequently as well. As for Mesa, anytime I fly through DFW I witness the carnage of an endless string of angry passengers first-hand.
So no, my opinion isn't from crew room gossip. The performance that I've witnessed for AAG has been horrendous.
So no, my opinion isn't from crew room gossip. The performance that I've witnessed for AAG has been horrendous.
07-27-2015 | 03:37 AM
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Yea if you guys want to use real information from accurate sources then here is the scoop. For the month of June Envoy had a CF of 94.98%, Mesa had 94.67 and TSA had a 94.25% completion factor. As far as "on time percentage" Envoy was on time 73.90%, Mesa 69.68%, and TSA was on time 60.29%.
So speaking for the Mesa vs Envoy debate looks like the Envoy guys really have nothing to boast about with only a CF of 0.31% better and a on time percentage of only 4.22% better.
So explain to me how TSA and Mesa are just "god awful" and Envoy is the shimmering beacon of light in performance again?
Airline Performance Reports
So speaking for the Mesa vs Envoy debate looks like the Envoy guys really have nothing to boast about with only a CF of 0.31% better and a on time percentage of only 4.22% better.
So explain to me how TSA and Mesa are just "god awful" and Envoy is the shimmering beacon of light in performance again?
Airline Performance Reports
07-27-2015 | 04:13 AM
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Yea if you guys want to use real information from accurate sources then here is the scoop. For the month of June Envoy had a CF of 94.98%, Mesa had 94.67 and TSA had a 94.25% completion factor. As far as "on time percentage" Envoy was on time 73.90%, Mesa 69.68%, and TSA was on time 60.29%.
So speaking for the Mesa vs Envoy debate looks like the Envoy guys really have nothing to boast about with only a CF of 0.31% better and a on time percentage of only 4.22% better.
So explain to me how TSA and Mesa are just "god awful" and Envoy is the shimmering beacon of light in performance again?
Airline Performance Reports
So speaking for the Mesa vs Envoy debate looks like the Envoy guys really have nothing to boast about with only a CF of 0.31% better and a on time percentage of only 4.22% better.
So explain to me how TSA and Mesa are just "god awful" and Envoy is the shimmering beacon of light in performance again?
Airline Performance Reports
The sad part is that a certain major airline is willing to let performance suffer in order to perpetuate the whipsaw by taking planes away from a certain regional and giving the planes to worse performing regionals.
Quality doesn't matter as long as it's CHEAP.
07-27-2015 | 04:55 AM
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The source of information is the CEO and the Senior VP for regional carriers. On the Questions and Answers portion another AAG employee complained about Mesa, once again. The CEO and senior VP said that they are aware of Mesas problems and outlined how they are trying to fix it, its not an Internet forum thing. It's the second time that Parker hears a complain about Mesa from an AAG employee, last time it was a 767 pilot who "asked" him about Mesa.
07-27-2015 | 05:00 AM
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Well from a strictly personal experience, I was scheduled to DH on TSA one day out of LGA and literally every single outbound flight that TSA had that day was cancelled. The departure board tends to show TSA cancellations rather frequently as well. As for Mesa, anytime I fly through DFW I witness the carnage of an endless string of angry passengers first-hand.
So no, my opinion isn't from crew room gossip. The performance that I've witnessed for AAG has been horrendous.
So no, my opinion isn't from crew room gossip. The performance that I've witnessed for AAG has been horrendous.
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