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Originally Posted by jdflyer1999 (Post 2103855)

Can't say when, but soon.
Can't say who
Good.

You're such a tease.

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Originally Posted by SpreadEagle (Post 2103698)

Isn't RW in Chicago doing today doing a base visit? I'm sure you probably just asked him...

...and he lied right to your face again.

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Originally Posted by ChickHicks (Post 2103610)

Big announcement Friday, right?

Who are you referring to as the "big kahuna"? Pedro? Pool?

News of the 175s. Good or bad?

From my connections GOOD news :D

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Originally Posted by unity2010 (Post 2104166)

From my connections GOOD news :D

GOOD news only comes in the form of pay raises and contract improvements. We already know they are accelerating the 175 program. We also know they are going to do the 90 options. Announcing we are getting the 175s that went to compass that was promised to American Eagle isn't good news. Or getting the 175s republic has parked is not good news. So I'm not holding my breath on this announcement.

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Originally Posted by adspilot (Post 2104477)

This, exactly. I don't want more planes at the regional level, I want more planes (and therefore pilots) at mainline. Second best is higher pay here. Third best is the public shaming or firing of certain middle and upper managers

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Originally Posted by adspilot (Post 2104477)

I heard 40 more E-175's, but that was weeks ago, not 90. The AA S80's are staying a bit longer to cover WO and non-WO "can't do" type stuff, but they will be gone within a couple of years and the mainline fleet size is expected to continue to shrink modestly by losing that fleet along with the 190's, so that may crimp total RJ counts at WO's making the 90 option highly questionable.

It should be of no surprise that Envoy will get more E175's, but total fleet (and pilot) count WILL decline unless they can muster in 35-40 new-hires in every month consistently for 5+ years for F/O Bucket to have a chance at looking inside the AA chocolate factory.

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Originally Posted by HobGoblin (Post 2103689)

I think it's a guarantee that envoy gets some options of the 175, if for no other reason then the 41st 175 triggers a vote on PBS.

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Originally Posted by highflyer1980 (Post 2104539)

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So we vote no

Thats an AA toilet, not an envoy toilet.

According to AAG's announced fleet plan for this year, ENY's MEC says they are set to exceed scope limitations in the number of RJ's by the end of this year. Unless APA grants scope relief (which I doubt) there's no way those 90 options will ever be exercised. Embraer is also going to be transitioning to the E2 version, which has a MTOW outside scope limitations as well.

We might see some of the Compass and Republic planes come to Envoy to replace 140/145's, but won't see any of the options unless something drastic occurs.