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Originally Posted by TrinityDawn
(Post 2105298)
According to AAG's announced fleet plan for this year, ENY's MEC says they are set to exceed scope limitations in the number of RJ's by the end of this year. Unless APA grants scope relief (which I doubt) there's no way those 90 options will ever be exercised. Embraer is also going to be transitioning to the E2 version, which has a MTOW outside scope limitations as well.
We might see some of the Compass and Republic planes come to Envoy to replace 140/145's, but won't see any of the options unless something drastic occurs. Just a thought......... |
That would definitely be an option, but so is management failing ENY again.
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Originally Posted by eaglefly
(Post 2105304)
I have some uneasy concerns about this situation and so should anyone already at AA or planning on coming here and being junior in the future.
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Ummm.....no.
EagleFly has consistently said he hopes the flow works as advertised and wishes the best for everyone at Envoy while stating well-placed reservations about DP's flow scheme (and rational reasons for same), to which you and a few other Envoy zealots have taken great exception and repeatedly attempted to gang rape him for daring to be skeptical about DP promises. You have consistently and repeatedly attempted to smear him and misrepresent both his motives and his arguments while doing so. You should be ashamed of yourself FlameNSky and I'm embarrassed for you. |
Whether you agree with eaglefly or not, you have certainly fueled his fire by paying him so much attention.
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Originally Posted by TrinityDawn
(Post 2105298)
According to AAG's announced fleet plan for this year, ENY's MEC says they are set to exceed scope limitations in the number of RJ's by the end of this year. Unless APA grants scope relief (which I doubt) there's no way those 90 options will ever be exercised. Embraer is also going to be transitioning to the E2 version, which has a MTOW outside scope limitations as well.
We might see some of the Compass and Republic planes come to Envoy to replace 140/145's, but won't see any of the options unless something drastic occurs. |
Originally Posted by SayAlt
(Post 2105469)
Ummm.....no.
EagleFly has consistently said he hopes the flow works as advertised and wishes the best for everyone at Envoy while stating well-placed reservations about DP's flow scheme (and rational reasons for same), to which you and a few other Envoy zealots have taken great exception and repeatedly attempted to gang rape him for daring to be skeptical about DP promises. You have consistently and repeatedly attempted to smear him and misrepresent both his motives and his arguments while doing so. You should be ashamed of yourself FlameNSky and I'm embarrassed for you. You never get that stuff, only this kind of stuff. I think they've passed the point of diminishing returns and actually HURT Envoy recruitment now, but their egos won't let them stop. Oh well, onward and downward...... |
It's Friday!!! Let's hear some good news.
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Originally Posted by SayAlt
(Post 2105469)
Ummm.....no.
EagleFly has consistently said he hopes the flow works as advertised and wishes the best for everyone at Envoy while stating well-placed reservations about DP's flow scheme (and rational reasons for same), to which you and a few other Envoy zealots have taken great exception and repeatedly attempted to gang rape him for daring to be skeptical about DP promises. You have consistently and repeatedly attempted to smear him and misrepresent both his motives and his arguments while doing so. You should be ashamed of yourself FlameNSky and I'm embarrassed for you. |
Originally Posted by TrinityDawn
(Post 2105298)
According to AAG's announced fleet plan for this year, ENY's MEC says they are set to exceed scope limitations in the number of RJ's by the end of this year. Unless APA grants scope relief (which I doubt) there's no way those 90 options will ever be exercised. Embraer is also going to be transitioning to the E2 version, which has a MTOW outside scope limitations as well.
We might see some of the Compass and Republic planes come to Envoy to replace 140/145's, but won't see any of the options unless something drastic occurs. As it currently stands AAG is allowed a regional fleet of 75% of its mainline narrowbody fleet. In addition, from 2016 onward 40% of AAG mainline narrowbody fleet may include RJ's from 66-76 seats with total count of all RJ's including small and large RJ's must fit within that 75% total. Assuming the MD-80 fleet is parked, the 757 is reduced down to roughly 25 internationally configured models and all A321 and B738 deliveries are taken plus the 20 E190s in limbo at the end of 2017 you finish with a mainline narrowbody fleet of A319: 125 A320: 50ish (some early models have been retired) A321: 220 B738: 305 B757: 25 E190: 20 Total: 720 Taking that final number multiplied by 75% you get an allowed total RJ count of 540 with 288 of those allowed to be between 66-76 seats. Today's RJ count with outstanding orders accounted for include 165: E70 E75 operated between Compass, RAH and Envoy 118: CR9 operated between Mesa and PSA 69: CR7 operated by SKW, PSA and ENY (22 currently count as large RJ) 118: EMB 145 operated by ExpressJet, TSA and ENY 132: CR2 operated by SKW, ExpressJet, Air Wisconsin and PSA 11: DH8-300 operated by PDT (only 300's count toward total) 283 large RJ's if 22 CR7s are reconfigured and 613 total RJs. While I agree that the large RJ fleet is growing there is going to be some serious pain among small RJ operators as AAG removes small RJs to stay within total RJ fleet count. I'll let everyone else speculate where those 60-80 removals come from. AAG's plan is no different than Delta or United in regards to RJs they're just a few years behind. How the A320NEO and B737MAX play into those numbers or if CR7 and E70 eventually get removed to allow more E75 or CR9 options to be executed is speculation at this point |
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