American has the newest and most modern fleet in America??? Hahahaha. Those MD-80's are state-of-the-art

Get a freakin life dude and go troll somewhere else. I'm glad the mods at least removed some of your trashy posts. Shouldn't you guys be landing on fumes in Aspen? Yeah, that happened last week. Great job!!

Sounds like you are the one needing the tissue. Obviously, envoy's success and the flow scare the **** out of you. Truth be told, if I were in your position, I would be scared too. After AA hires Flowthroughs, then Military Pilots, then those who can check the right boxes, it doesn't leave a whole lot of new hire spots for you. United is well on their way with to filling most of their new hire positions with Commutair, ExpressJet and military pilots as well. Good luck fighting over what's left. Yup, if I were you, I would be scared too.

Now I've heard it all. A person should be scared ****less because they are NOT at Envoy. LOL!

I'm going to recommend that you be scared ****less if hired in 2007 or after and employed by Envoy. You'll be waiting on that flow for a lonnnngggg time.

Now I've heard it all. The mantra of the anti-envoy crowd has always been that we're touting the 2.5 year upgrade/5 year flow and saying its a guarantee (nobody has ever said that.) Then you come on here and state as fact that the flow will not work as advertised and anyone hired post 2007 will be "waiting for a lonnnnng time?!"

I'm sorry but you don't have a crystal ball and are also someone who clearly lacks good judgement based on your recent career move.

Shouldn't you be studying up on those memory items for Allegiant? I mean engine failures seem to be a pretty common occurrence their ;) Again, great career!!!! Excuse me while I try and contain my laughter...

So you're saying you

Cracks me up! :D

Frogs slooooowly cooking in a proverbial pot, calling others "scared" to join them.


Yep!

https://freecrmstrategies.files.word...ogs_in_pot.jpg

Well, to be fair to the haters, there are a few here that are calling 2.5/6 (or 5.5, 5) the real deal, along with hundreds of upgrades and more hundreds of flows. But I can't think of anybody here who actually thinks it's going to happen without overcoming the already beaten to death subject of the hurdles in the way.

But here, one extreme feeds the other; the haters fuel the salesmen who fuel the haters...ad nauseam. But don't let the idea that the rest of us with a reasonably guarded and cynical outlook on ENY's promises get in the way of being called conspirators, salesmen, spineless or spreading negativity about the company and being the reason management's beautiful plans are failing. No matter how skeptical or optimistic we might be.

Just like politics. If you're not a commie on the government teat you must be a bomb dropping neo-con screaming "Drill baby, drill!"

No room for the middle, or reason, anymore. Drowning in the sea of extremist noise.

SayAlt, how is your job hunt going? Or are you planning on staying at Skywest "mainline"? Haha

Yeah, I'm sure they guys that passed up the chance to go to AA on 4th year pay are just lined up at the door and licking their chops to commute to reserve on 1st year pay while five years closer to retirement!

Those who were content with riding out their career living in base in MIA or NY, but then had their base close on them, are the ones most likely to make the decision to go to AA once the 824 are gone. I'd estimate this number at less than 50.