Originally Posted by ag386

Yeah, it's tough being gone from that ****hole. I feel bad for you. You have to be OK with being a "mainline" regional pilot for years to come. Enjoy the management beatings and BS they put you guys through.

There......is......life........after.......ENVOY.

Originally Posted by ag386

You have to be OK with being a "mainline" regional pilot for years to come.

Originally Posted by N927EV

lol, that's ironic since you're always coming on here to troll envoy.

Originally Posted by eaglefly

Yes and it's ironic that "sammysuperjet" values honesty. I think it's obvious he is a poser here......er, let's make that ANOTHER poser.

Let's look at him and his time line, shall we ?

- A member for 5 years, but no posts until a couple of weeks ago.

Um OK, so he may be a true pilot lurker, but considering the following, I doubt it.


- 3/23 (two weeks ago), he claims to be a new guy who flies cargo and would like to jump to 121 and looking for advice on the best flow of the AAG WO's. Later that day after several glowing reviews from the usual crowd, he will "look into Envoy".


- 3/24 (next day), he confirms he has targeted only Envoy.

I only saw this solicitation for opinions on the AAG flows on ENVOY related or titled threads and not asking PSA or Piedmont pilots via specifically targeting threads from their pilots or discussing such in detail, so hmmmm....


- 3/24 to present, immediately becomes a vehement Envoy defender and co-attacker talking exactly like a long-time Envoy pilot.

On 4/5, he actually used the term "EAGLE hater" and a new guy not even employed there wouldn't have made such a Freudian slip. An older hand who was (is) at Envoy WOULD. He also has quickly adopted a hostile attitude towards the other WO's by demonstration of antagonistic posts on their threads similar to a jackal that bolts from a thicket of bushes foaming at the mouth which is simply uncharacteristic of just a wide-eyed neutral newbie looking for advice with no ruffled fur.


- 4/7 (yesterday), 14 days after claiming he has decided on Envoy, he is scheduled for class which is not enough time in my understanding to complete the interview process and associated hurdles like PRIA background checks and drug testing.



Honesty ?

Please. There is clearly little of that here.

It's clear to me anyway that this forum is filled with posers of questionable veracity and the topic of Envoy unfortunately seems to draw more then its share of strange new characters rapidly popping up claiming to be new, "asking questions" or using some other ruse simply to start yet another faux discussion on the merits of Envoy. Again, if someone truly wants to go there, that's cool as for some it may indeed be the best fit, but I simply cannot ignore what I see to be an aggressive orchestrated campaign by some of questionable motives and "honesty" is lost by many of those here. It's why I always say, "caveat emptor" as if you're a buyer here on this forum (for anything), it's obvious to me you're going to encounter a lot of shifty characters with dark trench coats and down-turned fedoras wanting to sell you something if you'll only follow them into the dark alley of their choosing.

Just my .02........

Originally Posted by boiler07

Sounds like the exact opposite of what Ag has done since his first appearance here...

Anyone with half a brain can see through the veiled attacks from both sides.

Originally Posted by eaglefly

That's for him to defend. Even if true, it doesn't dilute my assertions about what is happening here and only it seems in regard to Envoy. Ultimately, if certain characters from Envoy wouldn't be so eager to sprinkle sugar all over this picnic, they'd have fairly few ants to complain about.

It is a self-inflicted misery for them and counter-productive for Envoy in the long run IMO.

Originally Posted by boiler07

I don't expect you to defend him. He originally showed up saying he was an envoy pilot, talked about his seniority number, and that all turned out to be false. Now he apparently has no qualms about admitting that he is in fact not at envoy. If he had such noble intentions about propagating the truth then I wonder why he lied in the first place.

I disagree on it being 100% self inflicted. I've seen Ag and a few others jump into new threads shouting generic poor sentiments about envoy management, QOL, etc before anyone else has even responded with "salesmanship". The chicken or the egg?...

Originally Posted by eaglefly

Keep it factual and actually, I'd probably leave from boredom.

Originally Posted by eaglefly

A battle for the ethical high ground among liars ? LOL ! Only at Envoy.

Well, regardless of that, I would hardly post on Envoy threads if it wasn't for the the sludge from a half dozen on the EST side. AFAIC, at this point you all can sell Envoy until your eyes pop out, I just question dubious claims which then seems to lead to counter-attack from nefarious people. Keep it factual and actually, I'd probably leave from boredom.

Of course, we know that isn't likely in the future, eh ?