PilotJ3

AA wasn't going out of business. They went BK with more than 2Billions in the bank.

AA was supposed to be stand alone, but AA Pilots and FAs signed a contract with the devil. Then the other creditors pushed for the merger.

Name User

Call me crazy but giving a pimply face CFI who hasn't graduated college yet a mainline priority ****es me off as well. It dilutes the value of our benefits greatly. It's bad enough all the WO employees and family get to travel as D2s. You guys don't work for AA, you are too a contractor, no different than AWAC, Republic, etc. for American Eagle flights.

yeahbutstill

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GodIsGood

Does it **ss you off that you and your family are also able to non-rev on any of the WO flights? It's a two-way street.

Name User

Apples and oranges.

Also can I non rev on the C172 with the CFI? What pass benefits do they bring?

An AWAC employee has a higher non rev priority on their metal. I'd be fine if it was similar with the WOs. Delta runs their non rev program the same way with Endeavor I believe.

At least we can still book jumpseats.

FourPutt

Technically the three regionals that AAG ownes are not contractors, that would be RJET, SKYW, XJT, etc. American Airlines does not own any regional, AAG is the owner of all three regionals and is also the owner of American Airlines. So AAG ownes four airlines and the employees of AAG all have the same travel benefits. The 3 regionals are not contractors (there are no CPAs) they are just pawns in the AAG family. If you believe you are entitled to higher priority than other employees of AAG then you should try to negotiate it into your next contract.

toolowterrain

No one thinks that that we should have a higher priority than mainline OR WO employees. Thats fair.

However with at the end of the US Airways days we, including family, traveled as SD2P or in other words the same as mainline parents (D2P today). I think that was fair.

However, post merger we are AAC which is above D3 but below D2P. Also:

-No access to NRTP or Jetaway

-Must list for American Flights through MyID Travel, which is about the most piece of garbage website in the world.

-Pay $1.58 PER SEGMENT to list on that site. PHL-CLT-DFW? $1.58 x 2 please. We already pay $75 per year + $50 per dependent to have travel benefits with American so that cost per segment is an insult.

And the best for last: NO ONLINE CHECK IN!!! First come first first serve 24hrs prior right? Better go to the airport the day before you vacation to checked in.

At your vacation destination and trying to get home? Better get there early and wait in line behind all the pax at the counter that have to check their 13 58lb bags for a family of 4 so that you and your family can get check in.

Oh...and good luck trying to get an agent in FRA, CDG, etc. to understand that an AAC is an actual non-rev priority code. They will argue that you are on a ZED and will list you as such putting you behind everyone including D3's.

Damn skippy we are ****ed off PilotJ3.

The Irony? If you need a ZED we can no longer use MyId Travel for that now. Have to get a paper ZED from the company at least 5 days prior.

FourPutt

Who do you work for? AA doesn't even have to offer non rev benefits to contract airlines, its all about what your company negotiates.

iFlyRC

Well gee, I can drain the O2 on the oxygen, and mr WO or mainline pilot can wait for the next flight too! You check yourself in to ride my airplane, I can't do it on yours. Side of my airplane says American Eagle, flying YOUR passengers, perhaps you don't care about your passengers flights getting cancelled because it is more important that your parents, children, and retirees make it on board to f off somewhere for the weekend, than people making it to work. We had priority, it was taken away from us. You obviously could care less! Hey Mesa, bring us another crappy TA, I am voting YES this time to bring the rest of these bastards down!

toolowterrain

AWAC. Were not new been flying under the Us Airways express banner since 2006. Our travel office has repeatedly stated that what we have is what american offered. No negotiations possible. Sorry but bad argument.