Envoy From a Brighter Prespective
08-16-2016 | 09:29 AM
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Traditionally it's very hard to get fired from an airline, especially a regional. If Envoy fired someone they must have had probable cause. Trust me airlines do not go about firing people without cause. We should all be happy they are taking a firm stand against troublemakers, we don't want them here at AA either.
It's really not hard to keep your job - I have only known a handful of folks who got canned, most for drug/alcohol issues.
It's really not hard to keep your job - I have only known a handful of folks who got canned, most for drug/alcohol issues.
08-16-2016 | 12:58 PM
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Traditionally it's very hard to get fired from an airline, especially a regional. If Envoy fired someone they must have had probable cause. Trust me airlines do not go about firing people without cause. We should all be happy they are taking a firm stand against troublemakers, we don't want them here at AA either.
It's really not hard to keep your job - I have only known a handful of folks who got canned, most for drug/alcohol issues.
It's really not hard to keep your job - I have only known a handful of folks who got canned, most for drug/alcohol issues.
08-16-2016 | 01:16 PM
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Traditionally it's very hard to get fired from an airline, especially a regional. If Envoy fired someone they must have had probable cause. Trust me airlines do not go about firing people without cause. We should all be happy they are taking a firm stand against troublemakers, we don't want them here at AA either.
It's really not hard to keep your job - I have only known a handful of folks who got canned, most for drug/alcohol issues.
It's really not hard to keep your job - I have only known a handful of folks who got canned, most for drug/alcohol issues.
08-16-2016 | 02:11 PM
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This guy is a stellar human being, a great person to be around, and is a good pilot. Troublemaker is never a word anybody would use to describe this person. He is not a union rep either. considering two people were fired that day, I smell a witch hunt intended to straighten up the rest of the minions.
Unless Envoy is firing all 30 potential flow throughs it might be beneficial to keep an open mind. This person did something to garner the attention.
08-16-2016 | 04:36 PM
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You really don't know this management, do you.
There are more morons here that should not be near an airplane but they kiss the right body part on management and they are still here plus they snitch. That the way it is here.
There are more morons here that should not be near an airplane but they kiss the right body part on management and they are still here plus they snitch. That the way it is here.
08-16-2016 | 08:53 PM
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Just playing devil's advocate. If this were the case why hasn't the company fired a bunch of flows? Just because this person is a "stellar" person to people that know him doesn't mean they didn't do something to warrant getting fired.
Unless Envoy is firing all 30 potential flow throughs it might be beneficial to keep an open mind. This person did something to garner the attention.
Unless Envoy is firing all 30 potential flow throughs it might be beneficial to keep an open mind. This person did something to garner the attention.
08-17-2016 | 06:11 AM
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From: Violin on the Envoy-tanic
Traditionally it's very hard to get fired from an airline, especially a regional. If Envoy fired someone they must have had probable cause. Trust me airlines do not go about firing people without cause. We should all be happy they are taking a firm stand against troublemakers, we don't want them here at AA either.
It's really not hard to keep your job - I have only known a handful of folks who got canned, most for drug/alcohol issues.
It's really not hard to keep your job - I have only known a handful of folks who got canned, most for drug/alcohol issues.
08-17-2016 | 06:24 AM
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From: Violin on the Envoy-tanic
Envoy does have contractual provisions for both unpaid days off (used to be coded PO) and personal emergency/bereavement (used to be coded PE). However, good luck getting either approved. The manager of crew scheduling has basically said no drops or unpaid days off would be granted over the summer, and the CPO has had a lot of power taken away from them by upper management. I've talked to individuals in both the DFW and ORD offices, and although they do what they can, they are receiving an enourmous amount of pressure from above. Funerals are part of the grieving process in our culture, and an emotional outlet as part of the stages of grief. The company treating us as robots and denying we are emotional beings puts a lot of people in peril unnecessary, including said pilot.
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