Envoy
03-05-2017, 04:33 PM
#1441
On Reserve
Joined APC: Jan 2017
Posts: 20
Question for those that have recently gone thru or are in Envoy training.
I interviewed with them last week, and have a CJO, just waiting on background to start.
Background is:
53yrs old
Will be commuting in from Phx.
Prior 121 (if that matters for this question?)
DFW is my first choice to get due to the commute so I'm hoping to try to get the 175 in DFW as a first choice, the 145 in DFW as a 2nd.
Here are my questions,
1. Im seeing a lot about QOL issues with Envoy on this forum, namely Envoy trying to get the schedules under control. A few mentions of only 2 days a week off, is Envoy running 5 day trips now? or is 4 day trips the norm?
2. What has the trend been in class on domicile and equipment assignments? i.e....how many 175's and 145's in DFW has been offered lately? Any mention of those slowing or increasing the slots for these?
3. At 53 where would I place seniority wise in class, I was told a couple of months ago it would be near or at top? But things change and for those recent newhires what has been the top end for age in classes lately.
4. Lastly, for those commuting already, with my situation would a commute from PHX to DFW combined with the current schedules be a nightmare? In other words getting home 1-2 days a week to do laundry? I do know initially that reserve is a nightmare, but once I push through that how is QOL for a guy commuting to/from PHX-DFW?
Thanks guys for the feedback, A lot of questions I know so any and all input is appreciated.
I interviewed with them last week, and have a CJO, just waiting on background to start.
Background is:
53yrs old
Will be commuting in from Phx.
Prior 121 (if that matters for this question?)
DFW is my first choice to get due to the commute so I'm hoping to try to get the 175 in DFW as a first choice, the 145 in DFW as a 2nd.
Here are my questions,
1. Im seeing a lot about QOL issues with Envoy on this forum, namely Envoy trying to get the schedules under control. A few mentions of only 2 days a week off, is Envoy running 5 day trips now? or is 4 day trips the norm?
2. What has the trend been in class on domicile and equipment assignments? i.e....how many 175's and 145's in DFW has been offered lately? Any mention of those slowing or increasing the slots for these?
3. At 53 where would I place seniority wise in class, I was told a couple of months ago it would be near or at top? But things change and for those recent newhires what has been the top end for age in classes lately.
4. Lastly, for those commuting already, with my situation would a commute from PHX to DFW combined with the current schedules be a nightmare? In other words getting home 1-2 days a week to do laundry? I do know initially that reserve is a nightmare, but once I push through that how is QOL for a guy commuting to/from PHX-DFW?
Thanks guys for the feedback, A lot of questions I know so any and all input is appreciated.
03-05-2017, 04:41 PM
#1442
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2006
Posts: 1,523
Originally Posted by 77RWFW77
Question for those that have recently gone thru or are in Envoy training.
I interviewed with them last week, and have a CJO, just waiting on background to start.
Background is:
53yrs old
Will be commuting in from Phx.
Prior 121 (if that matters for this question?)
DFW is my first choice to get due to the commute so I'm hoping to try to get the 175 in DFW as a first choice, the 145 in DFW as a 2nd.
Here are my questions,
1. Im seeing a lot about QOL issues with Envoy on this forum, namely Envoy trying to get the schedules under control. A few mentions of only 2 days a week off, is Envoy running 5 day trips now? or is 4 day trips the norm? No 5 day trips. There are some 4 day trips that have only 2 days off before starting another 4 day. Fortunately, this seems to be improving. However, it is improving at a snails pace, bit by bit. There seems to be slightly less 4 on 2 off stretches every month, but it's very slow going.
2. What has the trend been in class on domicile and equipment assignments? i.e....how many 175's and 145's in DFW has been offered lately? Any mention of those slowing or increasing the slots for these? 10-12 175 slots as of late. We've only got a few more airplane deliveries scheduled as of right now, so hiring into it will stop by summer the last I heard. We've had no new hires go into the 145 in DFW. They've all gone to ORD and LGA. BUT...we've had around 80ish I believe get awarded DFW while still in training on the last couple of vacancy bids.
3. At 53 where would I place seniority wise in class, I was told a couple of months ago it would be near or at top? But things change and for those recent newhires what has been the top end for age in classes lately. Obviously every class is different, but you should be pretty darn close to the top.
4. Lastly, for those commuting already, with my situation would a commute from PHX to DFW combined with the current schedules be a nightmare? In other words getting home 1-2 days a week to do laundry? I do know initially that reserve is a nightmare, but once I push through that how is QOL for a guy commuting to/from PHX-DFW?
There's no getting around it, commuting sucks. Good news is there are many flights from PHX to DFW. And there's no telling what things will be looking like around here by the time you're a line holder. Schedules, fleet count, new bases are all things that could change by then. Good or bad. But QOL definitely takes a hit as a commuter. But lots of guys do it.
Thanks guys for the feedback, A lot of questions I know so any and all input is appreciated.
I interviewed with them last week, and have a CJO, just waiting on background to start.
Background is:
53yrs old
Will be commuting in from Phx.
Prior 121 (if that matters for this question?)
DFW is my first choice to get due to the commute so I'm hoping to try to get the 175 in DFW as a first choice, the 145 in DFW as a 2nd.
Here are my questions,
1. Im seeing a lot about QOL issues with Envoy on this forum, namely Envoy trying to get the schedules under control. A few mentions of only 2 days a week off, is Envoy running 5 day trips now? or is 4 day trips the norm? No 5 day trips. There are some 4 day trips that have only 2 days off before starting another 4 day. Fortunately, this seems to be improving. However, it is improving at a snails pace, bit by bit. There seems to be slightly less 4 on 2 off stretches every month, but it's very slow going.
2. What has the trend been in class on domicile and equipment assignments? i.e....how many 175's and 145's in DFW has been offered lately? Any mention of those slowing or increasing the slots for these? 10-12 175 slots as of late. We've only got a few more airplane deliveries scheduled as of right now, so hiring into it will stop by summer the last I heard. We've had no new hires go into the 145 in DFW. They've all gone to ORD and LGA. BUT...we've had around 80ish I believe get awarded DFW while still in training on the last couple of vacancy bids.
3. At 53 where would I place seniority wise in class, I was told a couple of months ago it would be near or at top? But things change and for those recent newhires what has been the top end for age in classes lately. Obviously every class is different, but you should be pretty darn close to the top.
4. Lastly, for those commuting already, with my situation would a commute from PHX to DFW combined with the current schedules be a nightmare? In other words getting home 1-2 days a week to do laundry? I do know initially that reserve is a nightmare, but once I push through that how is QOL for a guy commuting to/from PHX-DFW?
There's no getting around it, commuting sucks. Good news is there are many flights from PHX to DFW. And there's no telling what things will be looking like around here by the time you're a line holder. Schedules, fleet count, new bases are all things that could change by then. Good or bad. But QOL definitely takes a hit as a commuter. But lots of guys do it.
Thanks guys for the feedback, A lot of questions I know so any and all input is appreciated.
03-05-2017, 05:33 PM
#1443
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2010
Posts: 547
Originally Posted by JTwift
Two year contract is optional, yeah?
03-05-2017, 06:15 PM
#1444
Line Holder
Joined APC: Mar 2017
Posts: 31
Chance of getting CRJ
I am already typed on the 145 and really hope to get it in training.
What are the chances of getting assigned the CRJ? Looks like there are only a few CRJ slots per class. Does the CRJ go senior or junior?
Also I'm 26 so I'll probably be one of the last to get to select aircraft type. Don't wanna get stuck with the CRJ!
What are the chances of getting assigned the CRJ? Looks like there are only a few CRJ slots per class. Does the CRJ go senior or junior?
Also I'm 26 so I'll probably be one of the last to get to select aircraft type. Don't wanna get stuck with the CRJ!
03-05-2017, 06:20 PM
#1445
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2006
Posts: 1,523
Originally Posted by Jsch
I am already typed on the 145 and really hope to get it in training.
What are the chances of getting assigned the CRJ? Looks like there are only a few CRJ slots per class. Does the CRJ go senior or junior?
Also I'm 26 so I'll probably be one of the last to get to select aircraft type. Don't wanna get stuck with the CRJ!
What are the chances of getting assigned the CRJ? Looks like there are only a few CRJ slots per class. Does the CRJ go senior or junior?
Also I'm 26 so I'll probably be one of the last to get to select aircraft type. Don't wanna get stuck with the CRJ!
03-05-2017, 06:35 PM
#1446
On Reserve
Joined APC: Jan 2017
Posts: 20
Originally Posted by bigtime209
Filler....
Bigtime209, thanks for the intel, thats exacty what I was looking for. I'm hoping the formal job offer will get sent out shortly. I'm looking at trying to get in a late April or May class, so hope the hiring into the 175 continues that far out.
Thx again.
03-05-2017, 07:51 PM
#1448
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2017
Position: EMB-145
Posts: 196
Originally Posted by Oskie305
All the Grandpa's are filling up the 175's. lol, leave some for the kids.
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03-06-2017, 01:35 AM
#1449
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2015
Posts: 540
Originally Posted by 77RWFW77
Question for those that have recently gone thru or are in Envoy training.
I interviewed with them last week, and have a CJO, just waiting on background to start.
Background is:
53yrs old
Will be commuting in from Phx.
Prior 121 (if that matters for this question?)
DFW is my first choice to get due to the commute so I'm hoping to try to get the 175 in DFW as a first choice, the 145 in DFW as a 2nd.
Here are my questions,
1. Im seeing a lot about QOL issues with Envoy on this forum, namely Envoy trying to get the schedules under control. A few mentions of only 2 days a week off, is Envoy running 5 day trips now? or is 4 day trips the norm?
2. What has the trend been in class on domicile and equipment assignments? i.e....how many 175's and 145's in DFW has been offered lately? Any mention of those slowing or increasing the slots for these?
3. At 53 where would I place seniority wise in class, I was told a couple of months ago it would be near or at top? But things change and for those recent newhires what has been the top end for age in classes lately.
4. Lastly, for those commuting already, with my situation would a commute from PHX to DFW combined with the current schedules be a nightmare? In other words getting home 1-2 days a week to do laundry? I do know initially that reserve is a nightmare, but once I push through that how is QOL for a guy commuting to/from PHX-DFW?
Thanks guys for the feedback, A lot of questions I know so any and all input is appreciated.
I interviewed with them last week, and have a CJO, just waiting on background to start.
Background is:
53yrs old
Will be commuting in from Phx.
Prior 121 (if that matters for this question?)
DFW is my first choice to get due to the commute so I'm hoping to try to get the 175 in DFW as a first choice, the 145 in DFW as a 2nd.
Here are my questions,
1. Im seeing a lot about QOL issues with Envoy on this forum, namely Envoy trying to get the schedules under control. A few mentions of only 2 days a week off, is Envoy running 5 day trips now? or is 4 day trips the norm?
2. What has the trend been in class on domicile and equipment assignments? i.e....how many 175's and 145's in DFW has been offered lately? Any mention of those slowing or increasing the slots for these?
3. At 53 where would I place seniority wise in class, I was told a couple of months ago it would be near or at top? But things change and for those recent newhires what has been the top end for age in classes lately.
4. Lastly, for those commuting already, with my situation would a commute from PHX to DFW combined with the current schedules be a nightmare? In other words getting home 1-2 days a week to do laundry? I do know initially that reserve is a nightmare, but once I push through that how is QOL for a guy commuting to/from PHX-DFW?
Thanks guys for the feedback, A lot of questions I know so any and all input is appreciated.
You are going to get beat up with those Envoy schedules and commuting. I.E. Get done late on day 4 (say it's Monday) commute first flight out next day Tuesday. Early RAP on Thursday. You've got to commute back out on Wednesday.
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