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The 175 has many junior FOs because they almost exclusively only offered it to new hires. This means that those pilots have a longer time to reach the seniority level to upgrade. If you end up on the bottom of the 175 list then you could find yourself parked there with no movement for quite some time.

The 175 will definitely lag a bit on attrition, depending on the options, other aircraft, etc. If no new 175s are forthcoming, I would look for about a six month stagnation late this year into middle of next year.

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Originally Posted by jmm264 (Post 2295690)

Hey everybody! I need help choosing priority of airframe. I want to be based in DFW but I have no idea how to pick what airframe. I know the 175 gets the smaller bonus but that doesn't make too much of a difference for me as QOL does. So my question is how do I determine the priority of my pick of aircraft at DFW and if I can't get DFW, where do I go from there to decide. Also, I'm 29 and I know that picks are based off class age and just whatever is available. Thanks!

E175 No doubt about it. Better type than the others plus its more advanced than the junkE145 and CRJ.

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Originally Posted by E175 Driver (Post 2298696)

E175 No doubt about it. Better type than the others plus its more advanced than the junkE145 and CRJ.

This guy is lost. Take the 145 more money and better qol. You will get off reserve quickly ando hold a good line quickly while people with your same date of hire will still be on 175 reserve.

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Originally Posted by E175 Driver (Post 2298696)

E175 No doubt about it. Better type than the others plus its more advanced than the junkE145 and CRJ.

E145 because you won't have to fly with or be associated with people who have this "god" complex about a stupid regional jet.

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Originally Posted by E175 Driver (Post 2298696)

E175 No doubt about it. Better type than the others plus its more advanced than the junkE145 and CRJ.

How is the type "better"?:rolleyes::confused:

E175 Driver is the typical Riddle guy that everyone hates flying with.

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Originally Posted by 3GreenKSNA (Post 2298590)

I do not understand this concept of stagnation on the 175. There hasn't been a 145 delivery since 2005. That fleet is very stagnant...
There is going to be attrition on all fleets. The 175 isn't going to be the growth gravy train it has been but the door isn't slamming shut on attrition either.
Pick what ever airplane gives you the base you want and the best QOL. Commuting to Reserve is terrible. If you can move to your base and drive to work you will be much happier. Having done a two leg commute to reserve previously I opted to move and drive to work this time around. My mental health is worth the move.

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The 175 will have a huge cluster of FOs around the same seniority, meaning relative seniority will not change until those FOs start upgrading. The 145 will have a large variety of FO seniority, meaning attrition will stay relatively consistent. On the 175, once those FOs start hitting upgrade, it will move like gangbusters, but until then, no one's seniority on the equipment will really go anywhere.

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Originally Posted by bigtime209 (Post 2299066)

E175 Driver is the typical Riddle guy that everyone hates flying with.

Gotcha, that explains a lot...

Thread refresh....can anyone explain why the 145 is "better" ? Assume the applicant lives in Dallas and does not wish to move or commute. Applicant will be age 50 at time of hire.

why would one pay more than another, for a 1st year new hire ? Which one would be quicker to Captain ?

Thank you