Commuteair/xjt merge.
#132
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All I read here is, I’m a bitter person that can’t get over the fact that ASA and ExpressJet “merged”. Call sign ACEY. ASQ as an identifier, HQ in ATL, executive decision to fly one brand of aircraft. If you remember, the combined company was named “Surejet” for a short period of time. The people revolted. The company came up with a list of names to rename. ExpressJet was one. The people picked ExpressJet.
Just because the name of the company eventually became ExpressJet, doesn’t negate the fact that the operating certificate was merged. For the purpose of “One” company.
Speaking if luck, do you recall the conference call and announcement by SkyWest INC that ExpressJet was planned to be an all CRJ airline and all E145s were to be given back to the United. I personally remember this because I had many friends that flew the ERJ. I expressed my condolences and was passionate about ensuring everyone felt as if we were one company. I deserve this job equally. If the integration resulted in a necessary displacement, I’d find another job if I couldn’t hack it. Point of this story. EVERYONE is lucky. Things could have been drastically different and were planned to go that way.
One last thing. If you feel the CRJ MEC had the ability to control the fate of the company the degree that you described, ask any of us that flew all the CR7s and CR2s out to Skywest MX hangers around the country to transfer them to the OO certificate. Watching the company dismantle in front of our eyes.
Just because the name of the company eventually became ExpressJet, doesn’t negate the fact that the operating certificate was merged. For the purpose of “One” company.
Speaking if luck, do you recall the conference call and announcement by SkyWest INC that ExpressJet was planned to be an all CRJ airline and all E145s were to be given back to the United. I personally remember this because I had many friends that flew the ERJ. I expressed my condolences and was passionate about ensuring everyone felt as if we were one company. I deserve this job equally. If the integration resulted in a necessary displacement, I’d find another job if I couldn’t hack it. Point of this story. EVERYONE is lucky. Things could have been drastically different and were planned to go that way.
One last thing. If you feel the CRJ MEC had the ability to control the fate of the company the degree that you described, ask any of us that flew all the CR7s and CR2s out to Skywest MX hangers around the country to transfer them to the OO certificate. Watching the company dismantle in front of our eyes.
I never said anything about the ASA MEC controlling the fate of the company. Through the Transition and Process Agreement, each MEC had veto power over any significant changes to the status quo. The denial of 175s to the XJT side was a continuation of the tactics employed by the ASA MEC to attempt to eliminate the XJT side of the company.
You like to make personal attacks and talk about things that happen to every regional as though it was a personal attack on you. And no, you don't deserve this job equally. Unfortunate events happen that we cannot control. Like furlough. I was furloughed after9-11 simply because of the flowbacks from CAL flowing back and displacing me to the street. I didn't take it personally and I didn't whine about it. Expressjet continued to grow during that time, despite over 300 of us being furloughed. So what? These things happen and you move on with your life and look toward the future. You can't control it, why whine about it? So no, none of us deserve this job equally. Fortune does not apply to each of us equally. Like you said, everyone is lucky. It just doesn't happen to everyone equally or simultaneously.
Now, instead of all of your noise about what could have happened and what eventually happened to the CRJ side of our company, how about those 175s? No answer for that?
#133
so what are the contenders on the rumor mill "awful news" coming?
a) Commutair XJT merger, seniority lists integrated by percentage not time.
b) Closure of EWR and/or TYS
c) Company "switching to PBS bidding"
any others?
Also, Why would C5 and EV merge? EV doesn't need their pilots, doesn't need the aircraft, and is lowering the amount of single-class flying out of EWR. It doesn't really make sense to me. I've been hearing that "it'll likely happen in a few years" ever since coming to EV.
a) Commutair XJT merger, seniority lists integrated by percentage not time.
b) Closure of EWR and/or TYS
c) Company "switching to PBS bidding"
any others?
Also, Why would C5 and EV merge? EV doesn't need their pilots, doesn't need the aircraft, and is lowering the amount of single-class flying out of EWR. It doesn't really make sense to me. I've been hearing that "it'll likely happen in a few years" ever since coming to EV.
#134
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Joined APC: Feb 2018
Posts: 213
Commuteair/xjt merge.
so what are the contenders on the rumor mill "awful news" coming?
a) Commutair XJT merger, seniority lists integrated by percentage not time.
b) Closure of EWR and/or TYS
c) Company "switching to PBS bidding"
any others?
Also, Why would C5 and EV merge? EV doesn't need their pilots, doesn't need the aircraft, and is lowering the amount of single-class flying out of EWR. It doesn't really make sense to me. I've been hearing that "it'll likely happen in a few years" ever since coming to EV.
a) Commutair XJT merger, seniority lists integrated by percentage not time.
b) Closure of EWR and/or TYS
c) Company "switching to PBS bidding"
any others?
Also, Why would C5 and EV merge? EV doesn't need their pilots, doesn't need the aircraft, and is lowering the amount of single-class flying out of EWR. It doesn't really make sense to me. I've been hearing that "it'll likely happen in a few years" ever since coming to EV.
D) closure of EWR/ORD for a “western” domicile
#137
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Position: Crew room attendant
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#138
good thing they're hiring 60-70 per month, it won't really affect operations. The company could shut down EWR and lose those 118 line holders without blinking.
#139
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Position: Arrgh Jay
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200 pilots domiciled in EWR would quit the company. Including 12+ year CAs who have 4 weeks vacation per year, IE much more expensive than street captains they will be replaced by.
good thing they're hiring 60-70 per month, it won't really affect operations. The company could shut down EWR and lose those 118 line holders without blinking.
good thing they're hiring 60-70 per month, it won't really affect operations. The company could shut down EWR and lose those 118 line holders without blinking.
#140
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200 pilots domiciled in EWR would quit the company. Including 12+ year CAs who have 4 weeks vacation per year, IE much more expensive than street captains they will be replaced by.
good thing they're hiring 60-70 per month, it won't really affect operations. The company could shut down EWR and lose those 118 line holders without blinking.
good thing they're hiring 60-70 per month, it won't really affect operations. The company could shut down EWR and lose those 118 line holders without blinking.
The street captains aren’t showing up at the moment and there’s just not enough to go around like there was in times past with many carriers competing for the same talent and willing to throw down big money in bonuses to acquire them.
United wants these senior pilots to apply to be street captains at Commutair to fly old ExpressJet planes but at a cheaper rate. Much the same of what they do with the ramp workers at the outstations.
I’m sure some will do just that but I’m thinking the vast majority will try and bail for the likes of Jet Blue, Spirit, Frontier, Allegiant, Envoy and others from what I’ve been hearing. In the end United looses a lot of pilots feeding their operation.
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